CentOS - Dec 2020 - I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on
> the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You
> heard about "silent majority", right? Ever though why it is
called that?

So, the majority of users are silent, because they're happy? Cool.

> Point is that RH DID slow down build of clones due to this change
>
Your memory is still rusty.? Early accusations were that this would 
impact developers (such as Oracle) who were adding additional patches to 
the kernel, or other maintenance.? It never impacted "clones" like 
CentOS at all.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:56:05AM -0800, Gordon Messmer
wrote:
> 
> Your memory is still rusty.? Early accusations were that this would impact
> developers (such as Oracle) who were adding additional patches to the
> kernel, or other maintenance.? It never impacted "clones" like
CentOS at
> all.
And you're incorrect; CentOS publishes a centosplus kernel that was
impacted to some extent by the kernel tarball changes I believe.

There are no absolutes in life, saying "never impacted" is almost
surely
untrue for at least one group of people.





							John
-- 
"I'm sorry but our engineers do not have phones."
As stated by a Network Solutions Customer Service representative when asked to
be put through to an engineer.
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On 12/13/20 8:56 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on
>> the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You
>> heard about "silent majority", right? Ever though why it is
called that?
> 
> 
> So, the majority of users are silent, because they're happy? Cool.
HAHAHAHAHA, what a wonderful imaginary world you live in :-D
530 negative commends on the blog, 7.800 signed the petition, 100+
negative mails on the CentOS mailing list, and at least 200 negative
comments only in CentOS Facebook group, not counting comments in other
20-30 groups.

So yeah, lets go with only 5 complainers :-D

So long, there is nothing more to be said on this topic, except that I
will be soon leaving Facebook group admin team.

> 
> 
>> Point is that RH DID slow down build of clones due to this change
>>
> 
> Your memory is still rusty.? Early accusations were that this would
> impact developers (such as Oracle) who were adding additional patches to
> the kernel, or other maintenance.? It never impacted "clones"
like
> CentOS at all.
> 
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Ljubomir Ljubojevic
(Love is in the Air)
PL Computers
Serbia, Europe

StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 19:56, Gordon Messmer <gordon.messmer at gmail.com>
wrote:
> So, the majority of users are silent, because they're happy? Cool.
>
Can't say I'm really appreciating the trolling in this list.

On 14/12/20 6:56 am, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on
>> the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You
>> heard about "silent majority", right? Ever though why it is
called that?
>
>
> So, the majority of users are silent, because they're happy? Cool.
>
Not because they are happy, but rather because they've most likely moved 
on.? The best protest is carried by moving feet.

I ditched CEntOS for Uuntu back in 2016 and haven't looked back. I only 
have one last machine still running CEntOS - the firewall. When that 
EOL's, mine will be a 100% Ubuntu shop.? But, not knowing what would 
happen to Canonical in the future, I've also started toying with Arch 
and FreeBSD...