On 12/12/20 4:43 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:> Am 12.12.20 um 04:11 schrieb Yves Bellefeuille: >> "John R. Dennison" <jrd at gerdesas.com> wrote: >> >>> ? Yes, far be it from people to worry about putting food on their >>> ? children's table during a pandemic. >> >> Oh, please. Nobody suggested this has anything to do with the >> pandemic; nobody even mentioned the pandemic, except you. >> > > While we are on pandemic, a complete different point here now. > ( its already being said, but it occupies us still mentally ) > > What about the small businesses that in this times suffer very much, > being forced to pay licenses will kill them ... I have a client that > moved from IBMCloud/RedHat to AWS/CentOS to survive this times. > (BTW: I suggest initially to use RHEL!) What do imagine who will be > killed when they receive the message that they should plan some budgets > for new licenses ...Hi. Springdale Linux, RHEL clone already exists. Rocky Linux clone is in preparation, and CloudLinux plans to publish RHEL clone also. And notice that CentOS Linux 7 will be supported until EOL in 2024 and there will still be support for CentOS Linux 8 for next 12 months, enough to chose your exit strategy smartly and without emotions.> > -- > Leon > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:50:07PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:> > Hi. > Springdale Linux, RHEL clone already exists. Rocky Linux clone is in > preparation, and CloudLinux plans to publish RHEL clone also. > And notice that CentOS Linux 7 will be supported until EOL in 2024 and > there will still be support for CentOS Linux 8 for next 12 months, > enough to chose your exit strategy smartly and without emotions.Springdale does not at present have an EL8 release to the best of my knowledge. John -- There are men -- now in power in this country -- who do not respect dissent, who cannot cope with turmoil, and who believe that the people of America are ready to support repression as long as it is done with a quiet voice and a business suit. John V. Lindsay (1921-2000), US politician, Congressman, Mayor of New York City -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20201212/e97e128f/attachment-0003.sig>
Am 12.12.20 um 21:55 schrieb John R. Dennison:> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:50:07PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> Hi. >> Springdale Linux, RHEL clone already exists. Rocky Linux clone is in >> preparation, and CloudLinux plans to publish RHEL clone also. >> And notice that CentOS Linux 7 will be supported until EOL in 2024 and >> there will still be support for CentOS Linux 8 for next 12 months, >> enough to chose your exit strategy smartly and without emotions. > > Springdale does not at present have an EL8 release to the best of my > knowledge.I was also confused at the beginning taking a look at it but they have a current EL8.3 branch - a tested migration path look like this: curl -O "https://springdale.math.ias.edu/data/puias/7/x86_64/os/RPM-GPG-KEY-puias" rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY-puias curl -O "https://springdale.math.ias.edu/data/puias/8/x86_64/os/BaseOS/Packages/springdale-release-8.3-0.42.el8.x86_64.rpm" curl -O "https://springdale.math.ias.edu/data/puias/8/x86_64/os/BaseOS/Packages/springdale-appstream-8-0.sdl8.2.noarch.rpm" curl -O "https://springdale.math.ias.edu/data/puias/8/x86_64/os/BaseOS/Packages/springdale-core-8-0.sdl8.2.noarch.rpm" rpm -K springdale-* |grep "digests signatures OK" rpm --nodeps -ev centos-linux-release-8.3-1.2011.el8.noarch centos-linux-repos-8-2.el8.noarch yum --releasever 8 localinstall spring* yum clean all yum distrosync reboot -- Leon
They only do not have DVD ISO, but they have "network" CD ISO for 8.1, and they have boot.iso for 8.3 for install over internet. On 12/12/20 9:55 PM, John R. Dennison wrote:> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:50:07PM +0100, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> Hi. >> Springdale Linux, RHEL clone already exists. Rocky Linux clone is in >> preparation, and CloudLinux plans to publish RHEL clone also. >> And notice that CentOS Linux 7 will be supported until EOL in 2024 and >> there will still be support for CentOS Linux 8 for next 12 months, >> enough to chose your exit strategy smartly and without emotions. > > Springdale does not at present have an EL8 release to the best of my > knowledge. > > > > > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant
On 13.12.2020 03:50, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:> On 12/12/20 4:43 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: >> Am 12.12.20 um 04:11 schrieb Yves Bellefeuille: >>> "John R. Dennison" <jrd at gerdesas.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ? Yes, far be it from people to worry about putting food on their >>>> ? children's table during a pandemic.>>>> What about the small businesses that in this times suffer very much, >> being forced to pay licenses will kill them ... I have a client that >> moved from IBMCloud/RedHat to AWS/CentOS to survive this times. >> (BTW: I suggest initially to use RHEL!) What do imagine who will be >> killed when they receive the message that they should plan some budgets >> for new licenses ... > > Hi. > Springdale Linux, RHEL clone already exists. Rocky Linux clone is in > preparation, and CloudLinux plans to publish RHEL clone also. > And notice that CentOS Linux 7 will be supported until EOL in 2024 and > there will still be support for CentOS Linux 8 for next 12 months, > enough to chose your exit strategy smartly and without emotions.Which brings further thoughts. I was creating replacements for CentOS 6 based systems, obviously beginning with CentOS 8. CentOS 7 looks less clumsy than CentOS 8, but it only receives maintenance updates now. Still 4 years ahead look better than one year with CentOS 8. My only concern ATM is whether RH can change its CentOS 7 maintenance plans as well, all of a sudden. (if I change Linux distribution later to another RHEL clone, it most probably would mean complete re-install anyway) "Choose now, Neo!" -- Sincerely, Konstantin Boyandin system administrator (ProWide Labs Ltd. - IPHost Network Monitor)