Matthew Miller
2020-Dec-11 15:32 UTC
[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:23:59AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:> >This is not a production operating system." > Does he say that CentOS is a production operating system? > > As far as I know, Red Hat has never endorsed running CentOS in > production, so I don't understand why it's significant that they > also don't endorse running CentOS Stream in production.Yeah, I too think this is important context. I don't think you'll ever find anyone from the business side ever even suggesting that they think CentOS Linux, the rebuild, was *ever* something Red Hat recommended to run in production. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader
Gianluca Cecchi
2020-Dec-11 15:42 UTC
[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 4:33 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote:> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:23:59AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >This is not a production operating system." > > Does he say that CentOS is a production operating system? > > > > As far as I know, Red Hat has never endorsed running CentOS in > > production, so I don't understand why it's significant that they > > also don't endorse running CentOS Stream in production. > > Yeah, I too think this is important context. I don't think you'll ever find > anyone from the business side ever even suggesting that they think CentOS > Linux, the rebuild, was *ever* something Red Hat recommended to run in > production. > > > >In early 2000 I don't think you'll ever find anyone from the business side ever even suggesting that they think Linux (in general) was *ever* something vendors recommended to run in production... but here we are now ;-) And bye bye to AIX, HP-UX, Sun Solaris, Digital Unix, Tru64 Unix (only to mention the OSes I had been involved in at different levels); and I would like to notice that each one of those had its strong points anyway and let me learn much. Business men joked with me when I asked about considering Linux in some context and they replied "Eh, Linus? The cartoon guy?" So what? Please leave business to business
Sergio Belkin
2020-Dec-11 16:00 UTC
[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream
El vie, 11 dic 2020 a las 12:33, Matthew Miller (<mattdm at mattdm.org>) escribi?:> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:23:59AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >This is not a production operating system." > > Does he say that CentOS is a production operating system? > > > > As far as I know, Red Hat has never endorsed running CentOS in > > production, so I don't understand why it's significant that they > > also don't endorse running CentOS Stream in production. > > Yeah, I too think this is important context. I don't think you'll ever find > anyone from the business side ever even suggesting that they think CentOS > Linux, the rebuild, was *ever* something Red Hat recommended to run in > production. > > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Project Leader >With all due respect. Please don't mix topics. Everyone is grateful about the effort of CentOS developers in the last 16 years. The problem is not only the announce and decision of RH, but also the unfortunate PR of CentOS, how could you ask trust and confidence with something like that:> If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and areconcerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you to contact Red Hat about options. Please don't blame the rest of the world for things that you wrote. Regards -- -- Sergio Belkin LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org