CentOS - Dec 2020 - CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?

On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just tried installing a VM from the stream ISO and it worked;
> 
> the only thing I would like to have changed as a default config is
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".... net.ifnames=0 ..."
> 
> the reason, I find eth0, eth1, eth2 easier to use than cryptic names
> like ens33 or ens0p3 or so;
> 
> Walter
> 
> p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
> in comparison to CentOS 8?
> 
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1

So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the Source Code (built) that
will become 8.4 in a few months.

On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes <johnny at
centos.org<mailto:johnny at centos.org>> wrote:

CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1

So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the Source Code (built) that
will become 8.4 in a few months.

If this statement is exactly correct, then I think a lot of the issues in this
thread may be easy to address.  However, the question is whether it is really
"That will become"
or actually
"That might become, if it turns out to be stable enough,"

I.e., to me the critical question is how often (in practice) will updates that
have problems, and will not actually make it into RHEL, end up in CentOS Stream.
Presumably all such updates will be superseded in Stream by corrected ones,
before they're in RHEL.

In fact, would it be possible, to list the final versions of each package's
update at the moment of the RHEL release, and only do the CentOS Stream update
based on that list?

Noam

The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for test
will be left with a large problem.  They will either need to purchase double the
number of RHEL licenses and switch to RHEL for testing or go to another
distribution.  RHEL + 1 will not work for testing application compatibility with
patches.

No company will want to pay double the amount they are currently paying for RHEL
licenses.  This is not even addressing the cost and time it will take to switch
over all the test servers.

This will cost Red Hat credibility with major companies that they might never
recover from.  This will cost Red Hat major business.

I will be recommending that my company change to Oracle Linux 8, instead of
upgrading to RHEL 8.  We will get the same model we are currently using,  Paid
support for production and free for test servers.

Andrea


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On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just tried installing a VM from the stream ISO and it worked;
> 
> the only thing I would like to have changed as a default config is
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".... net.ifnames=0 ..."
> 
> the reason, I find eth0, eth1, eth2 easier to use than cryptic names 
> like ens33 or ens0p3 or so;
> 
> Walter
> 
> p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream 
> is in comparison to CentOS 8?
> 
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1

So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the Source Code (built) that will become
8.4 in a few months.
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On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
>> p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream
is
>> in comparison to CentOS 8?
> CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
>
> So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the Source Code (built) that
> will become 8.4 in a few months.
what does this mean in comparison to CentOS 8, which sources are used 
for this?

to be concrete:

I can download this ISO of CentOS 8

(1) CentOS-8.3.2011-x86_64-dvd1.iso

and this ISO fo CentOS Stream

(2) CentOS-Stream-8-x86_64-20201203-dvd1.iso

which sources are used for (1) and which for (2)?

and what does it mean of the update process be 'yum update'

e.g. if one would do this with CentOS 6, there is no way; the support ended;

with CentOS 8 this will haben one day (somewhat in 2029), and what is 
said about this of CentOS Stream?

Thanks,

Walter