Phelps, Matthew
2020-Dec-08 15:28 UTC
[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote:> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next > year we?ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat > Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a > current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end > at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as > the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > > Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS Linux > 7, and we?ll continue to produce that version through the remainder of > the RHEL 7 life cycle. > https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Life_Cycle_Dates > > CentOS Stream will also be the centerpiece of a major shift in > collaboration among the CentOS Special Interest Groups (SIGs). This > ensures SIGs are developing and testing against what becomes the next > version of RHEL. This also provides SIGs a clear single goal, rather > than having to build and test for two releases. It gives the CentOS > contributor community a great deal of influence in the future of RHEL. > And it removes confusion around what ?CentOS? means in the Linux > distribution ecosystem. > > When CentOS Linux 8 (the rebuild of RHEL8) ends, your best option will > be to migrate to CentOS Stream 8, which is a small delta from CentOS > Linux 8, and has regular updates like traditional CentOS Linux releases. > If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are > concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you > to contact Red Hat about options. > > We have an FAQ - https://centos.org/distro-faq/ - to help with your > information and planning needs, as you figure out how this shift of > project focus might affect you. > > [See also: Red Hat's perspective on this. > > https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux > ] > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel >You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is May 2029. (c.f. https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos). CentOS Stream *is not* CentOS 8. This announcement is a breach of that trust with your community, and could be construed as a breach of contract with your users. Save this change for CentOS 9. -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>
Jonathan Billings
2020-Dec-08 15:39 UTC
[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:> You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is > May 2029. (c.f. https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos). > CentOS Stream *is not* CentOS 8. > > This announcement is a breach of that trust with your community, and could > be construed as a breach of contract with your users. > > Save this change for CentOS 9.Don't worry, it's been fixed. :/ https://git.centos.org/centos/centos.org/c/add15d276da60481d018d414493c8f5d4e630c16?branch=master diff --git a/_includes/centos-linux-download.html b/_includes/centos-linux-download.html index 4e8ce7f..63c5bd8 100644 --- a/_includes/centos-linux-download.html +++ b/_includes/centos-linux-download.html @@ -53,7 +53,8 @@ </thead> <tbody> <tr> - <td>31 May 2029 <br></td> + <td>31 December 2021 <a + href="https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/">*</a> <br></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
Phelps, Matthew
2020-Dec-08 15:40 UTC
[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:28 AM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:> > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote: > >> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next >> year we?ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat >> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a >> current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end >> at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as >> the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. >> >> Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS Linux >> 7, and we?ll continue to produce that version through the remainder of >> the RHEL 7 life cycle. >> https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Life_Cycle_Dates >> >> CentOS Stream will also be the centerpiece of a major shift in >> collaboration among the CentOS Special Interest Groups (SIGs). This >> ensures SIGs are developing and testing against what becomes the next >> version of RHEL. This also provides SIGs a clear single goal, rather >> than having to build and test for two releases. It gives the CentOS >> contributor community a great deal of influence in the future of RHEL. >> And it removes confusion around what ?CentOS? means in the Linux >> distribution ecosystem. >> >> When CentOS Linux 8 (the rebuild of RHEL8) ends, your best option will >> be to migrate to CentOS Stream 8, which is a small delta from CentOS >> Linux 8, and has regular updates like traditional CentOS Linux releases. >> If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are >> concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you >> to contact Red Hat about options. >> >> We have an FAQ - https://centos.org/distro-faq/ - to help with your >> information and planning needs, as you figure out how this shift of >> project focus might affect you. >> >> [See also: Red Hat's perspective on this. >> >> https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux >> ] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS-devel mailing list >> CentOS-devel at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel >> > > > You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is > May 2029. (c.f. https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos). > CentOS Stream *is not* CentOS 8. > > This announcement is a breach of that trust with your community, and could > be construed as a breach of contract with your users. > > Save this change for CentOS 9. > >This statement from that page is also now a lie: The CentOS Linux distribution is a stable, predictable, manageable and reproducible platform derived from the sources of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). This statement is the reason we *all* chose CentOS. You will be betraying us in the worst possible way if this change is allowed to happen. This isn't just a "Knee jerk" reaction. CentOS is abandoning everything it stood for by even creating CentOS Stream. We *dont want it* !! Getting rid of a strict re-compile of RHEL X.X is a complete reversal of the principles of CentOS and the community it serves. Again, WE DON'T WANT THIS!> > -- > > *Matt Phelps* > > *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* > > (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) > > Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian > > > 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 > email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> > >-- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>