On 2020-07-08 10:23, Leroy Tennison wrote:> I've used one on a Linux laptop, it "just worked" but the OS wasn't CentOS 7. >It is not clear if you used USB from APC UPS to USB port on the machine side or USB - to - "serial". USB to USB with standard USB cable will work. If one uses serial to USB adapter on the machine side (to create serial port through USB on the machine), then one _has_to_use_ APC cable: as John Pierce just said, it is APC special cable which though has serial connectors on both sides of cable, (and uses serial protocol of communication - this is already what I am saying), it does not resemble neither serial nor null-modem cables. Valeri> ________________________________ > From: CentOS <centos-bounces at centos.org> on behalf of H <agents at meddatainc.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:13 AM > To: Centos Mailing List <centos at centos.org> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CentOS] USB-serial adapter for CentOS 7 > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > > I need to connect an older APS UPS unit to a machine running CentOS 7. Unfortunately the UPS only has a serial port whereas the computer does not. I am aware that there are USB-serial adapters but that the hardware or the drivers might fall short of expectations. > > Does anyone have positive experience with such an adapter? Or, conversely, would recommend avoid a particular adapter? > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > Harriscomputer > > Leroy Tennison > Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist > E: leroy at datavoiceint.com > > > [cid:Data-Voice-International-LOGO_aa3d1c6e-5cfb-451f-ba2c-af8059e69609.PNG] > > > 2220 Bush Dr > McKinney, Texas > 75070 > www.datavoiceint.com<http://www..com> > > > This message has been sent on behalf of a company that is part of the Harris Operating Group of Constellation Software Inc. > > If you prefer not to be contacted by Harris Operating Group please notify us<http://subscribe.harriscomputer.com/>. > > > > This message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is proprietary, privileged or confidential or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the message. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On July 8, 2020 11:39:29 AM EDT, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:> > >On 2020-07-08 10:23, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> I've used one on a Linux laptop, it "just worked" but the OS wasn't >CentOS 7. >> > >It is not clear if you used USB from APC UPS to USB port on the machine > >side or USB - to - "serial". USB to USB with standard USB cable will >work. > >If one uses serial to USB adapter on the machine side (to create serial > >port through USB on the machine), then one _has_to_use_ APC cable: as >John Pierce just said, it is APC special cable which though has serial >connectors on both sides of cable, (and uses serial protocol of >communication - this is already what I am saying), it does not resemble > >neither serial nor null-modem cables. > >Valeri > >> ________________________________ >> From: CentOS <centos-bounces at centos.org> on behalf of H ><agents at meddatainc.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:13 AM >> To: Centos Mailing List <centos at centos.org> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CentOS] USB-serial adapter for CentOS 7 >> >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do >not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and >know the content is safe. >> >> >> I need to connect an older APS UPS unit to a machine running CentOS >7. Unfortunately the UPS only has a serial port whereas the computer >does not. I am aware that there are USB-serial adapters but that the >hardware or the drivers might fall short of expectations. >> >> Does anyone have positive experience with such an adapter? Or, >conversely, would recommend avoid a particular adapter? >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >> Harriscomputer >> >> Leroy Tennison >> Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist >> E: leroy at datavoiceint.com >> >> >> >[cid:Data-Voice-International-LOGO_aa3d1c6e-5cfb-451f-ba2c-af8059e69609.PNG] >> >> >> 2220 Bush Dr >> McKinney, Texas >> 75070 >> www.datavoiceint.com<http://www..com> >> >> >> This message has been sent on behalf of a company that is part of the >Harris Operating Group of Constellation Software Inc. >> >> If you prefer not to be contacted by Harris Operating Group please >notify us<http://subscribe.harriscomputer.com/>. >> >> >> >> This message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to >which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that >is proprietary, privileged or confidential or otherwise legally exempt >from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are not >authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or >any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please >notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the >message. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>I believe I mentioned that the UPS has the serial port, the computer thus has USB.
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 10:46 AM, H <agents at meddatainc.com> wrote: > > On July 8, 2020 11:39:29 AM EDT, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >> >> >> On 2020-07-08 10:23, Leroy Tennison wrote: >>> I've used one on a Linux laptop, it "just worked" but the OS wasn't >> CentOS 7. >>> >> >> It is not clear if you used USB from APC UPS to USB port on the machine >> >> side or USB - to - "serial". USB to USB with standard USB cable will >> work. >> >> If one uses serial to USB adapter on the machine side (to create serial >> >> port through USB on the machine), then one _has_to_use_ APC cable: as >> John Pierce just said, it is APC special cable which though has serial >> connectors on both sides of cable, (and uses serial protocol of >> communication - this is already what I am saying), it does not resemble >> >> neither serial nor null-modem cables. >> >> Valeri >> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: CentOS <centos-bounces at centos.org> on behalf of H >> <agents at meddatainc.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:13 AM >>> To: Centos Mailing List <centos at centos.org> >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CentOS] USB-serial adapter for CentOS 7 >>> >>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do >> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and >> know the content is safe. >>> >>> >>> I need to connect an older APS UPS unit to a machine running CentOS >> 7. Unfortunately the UPS only has a serial port whereas the computer >> does not. I am aware that there are USB-serial adapters but that the >> hardware or the drivers might fall short of expectations. >>> >>> Does anyone have positive experience with such an adapter? Or, >> conversely, would recommend avoid a particular adapter? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS at centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >>> Harriscomputer >>> >>> Leroy Tennison >>> Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist >>> E: leroy at datavoiceint.com >>> >>> >>> >> [cid:Data-Voice-International-LOGO_aa3d1c6e-5cfb-451f-ba2c-af8059e69609.PNG] >>> >>> >>> 2220 Bush Dr >>> McKinney, Texas >>> 75070 >>> www.datavoiceint.com<http://www..com> >>> >>> >>> This message has been sent on behalf of a company that is part of the >> Harris Operating Group of Constellation Software Inc. >>> >>> If you prefer not to be contacted by Harris Operating Group please >> notify us<http://subscribe.harriscomputer.com/>. >>> >>> >>> >>> This message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to >> which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that >> is proprietary, privileged or confidential or otherwise legally exempt >> from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are not >> authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or >> any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please >> notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the >> message. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS at centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> > > I believe I mentioned that the UPS has the serial port, the computer thus has USB. >In this case, if UPS doesn?t have USB port (which will be much simpler), then as others said: 1. use USB to serial dongle attached to computer USB port (check with standard serial communicating equipment that your computer with this dongle talks serial protocol) 2. Get APC cable; this is not standard serial cables, standard cables (neither serial nor null-modem) will not work. It probably will be something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000067OG4?tag=duckduckgo-ffsb-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1 - but take it with a grain of salt, do your own checking. Then you will be in business. I used APC smart UPSes for almost a couple of decades. With cables as above connected to serial port of machine (those were CentOS Linuxes). I used apcupsd, which also can be configured as master on machine directly connected to UPS, and several other machines, behind the same UPS power wise though not connected to UPS signal wise, but talking to apcupsd on master machine. Good luck! Valeri
On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:46 AM H <agents at meddatainc.com> wrote:> > I believe I mentioned that the UPS has the serial port, the computer thus > has USB. > >yes, but is it 'basic serial UPS' or is it 'enhanced serial UPS' ? the former do NOT use the rx/tx data of the serial port at all, they ONLY use the serial port control signals, and they probably will NOT work with a USB port because they require very specific behavior from those signals at power up and reboot times. the latter DO use the serial data, and may work with USB serial. -- -john r pierce recycling used bits in santa cruz