On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. >> >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? >> >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, >> either with dnf or some other way. >> >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, >> which I've been running for several years, >> and I don't particularly want to change. >> >> Any views on this? >> > > You need read the usage license. > > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > production environment.When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a sense of such offer? Valeri> > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move > by Red Hat. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:> > On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > >> > >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > >> > >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > >> either with dnf or some other way. > >> > >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > >> which I've been running for several years, > >> and I don't particularly want to change. > >> > >> Any views on this? > >> > > > > You need read the usage license. > > > > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > > production environment. > > When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer > of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... > it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a > sense of such offer? > > Valeri > > > > > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move > > by Red Hat. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >Hi, As things stand, you can signup for a Red Hat Developer Subscription for free to get full access to all Red Hat products as a developer. Yes, you cannot deploy Red Hat products in production with this subscription but anything you develop on it can be put into a production system which has a valid production grade Red Hat Subscription which has been paid for. -- *Mohammed Zeeshan Ahmed, * B.E Computer Science Engineering Certified IT & Cloud Architect & RHCSA +919986458839 Bengaluru, India https://mohammedzee1000.wordpress.com/ <http://mohammed-zeeshan.strikingly.com>
Yes, this helps at least "single" developers and people that are training for rhce / rhcsa exam.. br, -- Eero 2016-04-04 17:16 GMT+03:00 Mohammed Zeeshan <mohammed.zee1000 at gmail.com>:> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > > On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > > >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > > >> > > >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > > >> > > >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > > >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > > >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > > >> either with dnf or some other way. > > >> > > >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > > >> which I've been running for several years, > > >> and I don't particularly want to change. > > >> > > >> Any views on this? > > >> > > > > > > You need read the usage license. > > > > > > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > > > production environment. > > > > When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a > developer > > of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... > > it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a > > sense of such offer? > > > > Valeri > > > > > > > > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome > move > > > by Red Hat. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS mailing list > > > CentOS at centos.org > > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Valeri Galtsev > > Sr System Administrator > > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > > University of Chicago > > Phone: 773-702-4247 > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > Hi, > > As things stand, you can signup for a Red Hat Developer Subscription for > free to get full access > to all Red Hat products as a developer. Yes, you cannot deploy Red Hat > products in production > with this subscription but anything you develop on it can be put into a > production system which > has a valid production grade Red Hat Subscription which has been paid for. > > -- > *Mohammed Zeeshan Ahmed, * > B.E Computer Science Engineering > Certified IT & Cloud Architect & RHCSA > +919986458839 > Bengaluru, India > > https://mohammedzee1000.wordpress.com/ > <http://mohammed-zeeshan.strikingly.com> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On 04/04/16 10:06 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, >>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. >>> >>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? >>> >>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, >>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. >>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, >>> either with dnf or some other way. >>> >>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, >>> which I've been running for several years, >>> and I don't particularly want to change. >>> >>> Any views on this? >>> >> >> You need read the usage license. >> >> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a >> production environment. > > When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer > of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... > it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a > sense of such offer? > > ValeriOur company has been in Red Hat's ISV program for ages, and it is very helpful. There are differences between how CentOS and RHEL works, so being able to test against both makes it much easier for our users (community users and paid customers) to choose which system they want. I also means that we can be sure those who choose RHEL proper will have no problems. We also use the RHEL installs for demos and trade shows, which is important. Like it or not, there is a certain "professionalism" to being able to demo your product on RHEL instead of CentOS. Most customers insist on RHEL so seeing the product running already on RH is a useful sales tool. In short; The ISV program has been very helpful and benefited both RH and our company. -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education?
And (big) commercial vendors/users always prefer RHEL as it commercially supported platform. -- Eero 2016-04-04 17:25 GMT+03:00 Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca>:> On 04/04/16 10:06 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > >>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > >>> > >>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > >>> > >>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > >>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > >>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > >>> either with dnf or some other way. > >>> > >>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > >>> which I've been running for several years, > >>> and I don't particularly want to change. > >>> > >>> Any views on this? > >>> > >> > >> You need read the usage license. > >> > >> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > >> production environment. > > > > When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a > developer > > of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... > > it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a > > sense of such offer? > > > > Valeri > > Our company has been in Red Hat's ISV program for ages, and it is very > helpful. There are differences between how CentOS and RHEL works, so > being able to test against both makes it much easier for our users > (community users and paid customers) to choose which system they want. I > also means that we can be sure those who choose RHEL proper will have no > problems. > > We also use the RHEL installs for demos and trade shows, which is > important. Like it or not, there is a certain "professionalism" to being > able to demo your product on RHEL instead of CentOS. Most customers > insist on RHEL so seeing the product running already on RH is a useful > sales tool. > > In short; The ISV program has been very helpful and benefited both RH > and our company. > > -- > Digimer > Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ > What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without > access to education? > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On Mon, April 4, 2016 9:25 am, Digimer wrote:> On 04/04/16 10:06 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, >>>> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. >>>> >>>> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? >>>> >>>> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, >>>> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. >>>> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, >>>> either with dnf or some other way. >>>> >>>> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, >>>> which I've been running for several years, >>>> and I don't particularly want to change. >>>> >>>> Any views on this? >>>> >>> >>> You need read the usage license. >>> >>> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a >>> production environment. >> >> When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a >> developer >> of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... >> it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a >> sense of such offer? >> >> Valeri > > Our company has been in Red Hat's ISV program for ages, and it is very > helpful. There are differences between how CentOS and RHEL works, so > being able to test against both makes it much easier for our users > (community users and paid customers) to choose which system they want. I > also means that we can be sure those who choose RHEL proper will have no > problems. > > We also use the RHEL installs for demos and trade shows, which is > important. Like it or not, there is a certain "professionalism" to being > able to demo your product on RHEL instead of CentOS. Most customers > insist on RHEL so seeing the product running already on RH is a useful > sales tool. > > In short; The ISV program has been very helpful and benefited both RH > and our company.Thanks, everybody. I knew there are clever people who can help poor one to understand something that doesn't seem to make any sense. Which it actually does once someone helped you to see bigger picture. Valeri> > -- > Digimer > Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ > What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without > access to education? > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Mohammed Zeeshan <mohammed.zee1000 at gmail.com> wrote:> > Hi, > > As things stand, you can signup for a Red Hat Developer Subscription for > free to get full access > to all Red Hat products as a developer. Yes, you cannot deploy Red Hat > products in production > with this subscription but anything you develop on it can be put into a > production system which > has a valid production grade Red Hat Subscription which has been paid for. >Reads like the MSDN program from a Redmond based company. Good to know though -- thanks. -- Arun Khan