I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, either with dnf or some other way. I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, which I've been running for several years, and I don't particularly want to change. Any views on this? -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
Hi, I think you miss understood or the authors of the article about 'Redhat offering their Linux free'. Can you please provide your source? First of all it's the distro that has been offered for 'free', but only for developers. Please read the original press release: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-expands-red-hat-developer-program-no-cost-red-hat-enterprise-linux-developer-subscription As for your question about 'changing things'. There's non for you and not for Centos. In regards, Maikel On 04/04/2016 03:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > > What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > > The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > either with dnf or some other way. > > I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > which I've been running for several years, > and I don't particularly want to change. > > Any views on this? >
Yes, they are providing free version only for "developer use". -- Eero 2016-04-04 16:39 GMT+03:00 Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net>:> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > > What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > > The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > either with dnf or some other way. > > I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > which I've been running for several years, > and I don't particularly want to change. > > Any views on this? > > -- > Timothy Murphy > gayleard /at/ eircom.net > School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
Hello Timothy, On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:39:54 +0100 Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > > What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > > The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > either with dnf or some other way. > > I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > which I've been running for several years, > and I don't particularly want to change. > > Any views on this?Wow, it's not really offered as "free", it's a 30-day evaluation. Try and buy. You won't get support after this is you don't subscribe to their services and I have no idea what will happen if you can updates or whatever, even for non-production uses. Quoting https://access.redhat.com/products/red-hat-enterprise-linux/evaluation: =================================Try Red Hat Enterprise Linux free Evaluate Red Hat Enterprise Linux for your application deployments, datacenter infrastructure or virtual and cloud environments. Red Hat Enterprise Linux provides a reliable a secure operating system that you can trust to run your most mission critical workloads. This evaluation: Provides a single subscription for a variant of Red Hat Enterprise Linux Offers access to Red Hat's award winning Customer Portal, including knowledge, videos, and documentation Is not intended for production use Start your evaluation You will need a Red Hat account to continue. If you are new to Red Hat, you can create an account in the next step. ================================= Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20160404/966c21b8/attachment.sig>
On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, > and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. > > What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > > The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > either with dnf or some other way. > > I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > which I've been running for several years, > and I don't particularly want to change. > > Any views on this? >You need read the usage license. That subscription can only be used in development and not in a production environment. If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move by Red Hat. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20160404/23eba57b/attachment.sig>
On 04/04/2016 08:53 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. >> >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? >> >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, >> either with dnf or some other way. >> >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, >> which I've been running for several years, >> and I don't particularly want to change. >> >> Any views on this? >> > > You need read the usage license. > > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > production environment. > > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move > by Red Hat.Here is the link for the download: http://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/get-started/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20160404/3e34485e/attachment-0001.sig>
On Mon, April 4, 2016 8:53 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. >> >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? >> >> The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, >> and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. >> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, >> either with dnf or some other way. >> >> I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, >> which I've been running for several years, >> and I don't particularly want to change. >> >> Any views on this? >> > > You need read the usage license. > > That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > production environment.When I think about it I have a strange feeling. To be (become) a developer of something that you yourself will not be able to use in production... it's akin volunteer to become a slave. Is there anybody who _can_ make a sense of such offer? Valeri> > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move > by Red Hat. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Johnny Hughes wrote:> On 04/04/2016 08:39 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:>> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, >> and downloaded the ISO, though I haven't run it. >> >> What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?> You need read the usage license.I glanced through this before downloading the ISO. But I can't locate it now on the RedHat website(s).> That subscription can only be used in development and not in a > production environment. > > If that works for want you want to use it for then it is an awesome move > by Red Hat.I run CentOS on two home servers (in different countries), and have no ambition to make money from them, which I take is the meaning of "production" in this context. Surely there must be many CentOS users like me? I found puzzling the suggestion (not by Johnny Hughes) that RedHat's offer is of little value. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin
On 2016-04-04, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:> I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, and downloaded the > ISO, though I haven't run it. > > What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer?I think it's an excellent opportunity for developers, and for the simply curious.> > The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly.You should receive an email confirmation from Red Hat. In my case it only arrived after I had entered my RH account details when installing the new OS. That could just be a coincidence, of course.> Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > either with dnf or some other way.Updates are available through yum in the normal way. Dnf is available in the EPEL 7 repository.> > I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > which I've been running for several years, > and I don't particularly want to change. > > Any views on this?One thing that struck me is that the (free) developer subscription is valid for only one year. It is not clear whether the subscription can be freely renewed thereafter. I wouldn't advocate a full migration just yet! -- Liam
On 5 April 2016 at 13:31, Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole at gmail.com> wrote:> On 2016-04-04, Timothy Murphy > <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote: > > I read that Redhat was offering their Linux free, and downloaded the > > ISO, though I haven't run it. > > > > What do CentOS users think of Redhat's offer? > > I think it's an excellent opportunity for developers, and for the simply > curious. > > > > > The registration with Redhat seemed very bureaucratic to me, > > and I'm not sure if I have carried it out properly. > > You should receive an email confirmation from Red Hat. In my case it > only arrived after I had entered my RH account details when installing > the new OS. That could just be a coincidence, of course. > > > Also, I didn't see if it was possible to get updates, > > either with dnf or some other way. > > Updates are available through yum in the normal way. Dnf is available in > the EPEL 7 repository. > >I wouldn't use dnf from EPEL though ;)> > > > I've been (and am) very pleased with CentOS, > > which I've been running for several years, > > and I don't particularly want to change. > > > > Any views on this? > > One thing that struck me is that the (free) developer subscription is > valid for only one year. It is not clear whether the subscription can be > freely renewed thereafter. I wouldn't advocate a full migration just > yet! > >The $99 sub is per year, this is just a free version of that and RH have no way (nor would it be sensible for them to) create an unlimited life subscription on their systems/platform. How long they'll keep this programme? Well that's crystal ball time and I guess depends on the uptake and how this helps with their developers conferences. It's not like they lock you in with proprietary tech though ...