On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 05:12:48PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote:> On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 19:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 07:07:38PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > > Well, that's the limit of my offerings. I'm still trying to find the > > > thing I used back in C5(?) that raised the panels when the mouse hovered > > > over it for X seconds. With C6 I can't find it anymore and it switches > > > way too fast. > > > > in C6 it's in SYSTEM | PREFERENCES | WINDOWS > > there's a slider titled "interval before raising". > LoL! I just found it while trying to find out where another distasteful > C6.6 update effect was started. > > > > > > > > <snip> > > In a nutshell, after I would terminate Firefox as part of my normal log > off process, there would be another instance of Firefox left hanging > around with a ppid of 1 (so it's daemonized", or as I prefer > "demonized" ;-)) and using all the CPU it could get (97%-99% of a 6 core > AMD in my desktop) while no Firefox windows were open. Figuring it might > be saving stuff I checked back many minutes later on many days and > cycles and it was always there. Moreover, when normally using Firefox > I'd seen 103%, 104% CPU usage etc.I commonly also find a "stray" firefox running after stopping firefox, and it isn't using a window either. it's a nuisance because, when there's a firefox update and it wants to restart the browser, it can't because there's that darn "stray" one hanging around. like you, I have no idea where it comes from or why it's there, nor what it's doing, either.> > I commented out the entries that start it in Xclients and made a patch. > If I see no ill effects I'll leave it in place, otherwise back to > digging as to why it's there.please let me know how it goes, I may want to investigate doing the same.> > I'll tell ya, those folks keep going the way they are and every Windows > box on the planet will be able to run circles around many of these Linux > distros. > > BillThanks! Fred -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. ----------------------------- Proverbs 15:9 (niv) -----------------------------
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 17:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 05:12:48PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 19:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > > <snip>> > In a nutshell, after I would terminate Firefox as part of my normal log > > off process, there would be another instance of Firefox left hanging > > around with a ppid of 1 (so it's daemonized", or as I prefer > > "demonized" ;-)) and using all the CPU it could get (97%-99% of a 6 core > > AMD in my desktop) while no Firefox windows were open. Figuring it might > > be saving stuff I checked back many minutes later on many days and > > cycles and it was always there. Moreover, when normally using Firefox > > I'd seen 103%, 104% CPU usage etc. > > I commonly also find a "stray" firefox running after stopping firefox, > and it isn't using a window either. it's a nuisance because, when there's > a firefox update and it wants to restart the browser, it can't because > there's that darn "stray" one hanging around. > > like you, I have no idea where it comes from or why it's there, nor what > it's doing, either. > > > > > I commented out the entries that start it in Xclients and made a patch. > > If I see no ill effects I'll leave it in place, otherwise back to > > digging as to why it's there. > > please let me know how it goes, I may want to investigate doing the same.After my first restart of X, things are working well but I did see an abrt of a gnome pkg-something manager. No other ill results thus far. I ignored the abort because, based on the results of my bug filing on the X window crash (when moving between run levels 3 and 5) so far, there's no benefit to investigating and reporting it. The patch is small so I'll attach it in case anyone else wants to give it a go right now.> <snip>Bill -------------- next part -------------- # Commented out firefox entry in /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients # This eliminates a "background" instance of firefox, with a ppid of 1, that # consummed a lot of cpu time and would persist after exit from the normal # firfox. # Following makes patch suitable output # RAN THIS cp -a /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients.H0 # RAN THIS diff -u /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients.H0 /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients # PRODUCED FOLLOWING --- /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients.H0 2013-11-22 06:15:33.000000000 -0500 +++ /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients 2015-01-11 16:13:53.521960405 -0500 @@ -62,9 +62,10 @@ if [ -x /usr/bin/xterm ] ; then /usr/bin/xterm -geometry 80x50-50+150 & fi - if [ -x /usr/bin/firefox -a -f /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ]; then - /usr/bin/firefox /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html & - fi +# Commented out firefox stuff. +# if [ -x /usr/bin/firefox -a -f /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html ]; then +# /usr/bin/firefox /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html & +# fi if [ -x /usr/bin/twm ] ; then exec /usr/bin/twm fi
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 17:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:> <snip>> please let me know how it goes, I may want to investigate doing the same.I sent a post with a patch, but forget to mention good results and mentioned on the abort. Using top, Firefox CPU utilization has dropped back into normal ranges with my activity, number of open tabs, number of java stuff started, ... Seems to hover in the 7% - 30% range and I'm having fewer "interminable delays" when refreshing, switching work spaces, etc.> <snip>Bill
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 08:44:11AM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote:> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 17:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > > <snip> > > > please let me know how it goes, I may want to investigate doing the same. > > I sent a post with a patch, but forget to mention good results and > mentioned on the abort. > > Using top, Firefox CPU utilization has dropped back into normal ranges > with my activity, number of open tabs, number of java stuff started, ... > > Seems to hover in the 7% - 30% range and I'm having fewer "interminable > delays" when refreshing, switching work spaces, etc.Bill: Thanks! I saw it, will be giving it a try in the near future. -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- Show me your ways, O LORD, teach me your paths; Guide me in your truth and teach me, for you are God my Savior, And my hope is in you all day long. -------------------------- Psalm 25:4-5 (NIV) --------------------------------