CentOS - May 2009 - 32bit vs 64bit memory usage

Hi!

I ran the following test on 3 different setups:

#!/usr/bin/php
<?
    $n=1024*256;

    $usage1=memory_get_usage();
    $rusage1=memory_get_usage(true);
    $a=array();
    for($i=0;$i<$n;$i++)
      $a[]=0;
    $usage2=memory_get_usage();
    $rusage2=memory_get_usage(true);
    echo ($usage2-$usage1).'/'.($rusage2-$rusage1);
?>

...and I got the following results:

32bit kernel & 32bit php - 18875368/19136512
64bit kernel & 64bit php - 35654376/35913728
64bit kernel & 32bit php - 18875368/19136512

Some client has a 64bit xen-based VPS with 512MB RAM user for
webhosting and I'm wondering if I can free some memory installing
httpd&php i386 modules.

I understand that 64bit programs use more memory because the pointers,
integers, etc. are now 64bit instead of 32bit, but running a 32bit
program on a 64bit architecture is the same as running that program on
a 32bit architecture (just concerning the memory used)? At least,
that's my conclusion after running the above test. Am I wrong?

Thank you!

PS: No, the client's service provider does not offer a 32bit vps
platform and the client won't change the provider or pay for
additional memory.

-- 
George Negoita
System Administrator
iMedia Plus Group

At Thu, 21 May 2009 23:30:44 +0300 CentOS mailing list <centos at
centos.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I ran the following test on 3 different setups:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/php
> <?
>     $n=1024*256;
> 
>     $usage1=memory_get_usage();
>     $rusage1=memory_get_usage(true);
>     $a=array();
>     for($i=0;$i<$n;$i++)
>       $a[]=0;
>     $usage2=memory_get_usage();
>     $rusage2=memory_get_usage(true);
>     echo ($usage2-$usage1).'/'.($rusage2-$rusage1);
> ?>
> 
> ...and I got the following results:
> 
> 32bit kernel & 32bit php - 18875368/19136512
> 64bit kernel & 64bit php - 35654376/35913728
> 64bit kernel & 32bit php - 18875368/19136512
> 
> Some client has a 64bit xen-based VPS with 512MB RAM user for
> webhosting and I'm wondering if I can free some memory installing
> httpd&php i386 modules.
> 
> I understand that 64bit programs use more memory because the pointers,
> integers, etc. are now 64bit instead of 32bit, but running a 32bit
> program on a 64bit architecture is the same as running that program on
> a 32bit architecture (just concerning the memory used)? At least,
> that's my conclusion after running the above test. Am I wrong?
No, you are not wrong. All x86 flavered 64-bit processors will run as
32-bit (i686) processors and when running in 32-bit mode are
effectively just a i686 as far as any 32-bit program can tell.  There
is no reason NOT to just install a straight 32-bit OS on such a machine
if there is less than 4gig of virtual memory and non-of the programms
being run has any reason to use the 64-bit address space.  Web hosting
is a good example of this. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> PS: No, the client's service provider does not offer a 32bit vps
> platform and the client won't change the provider or pay for
> additional memory.
> 
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