I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did
something... I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from,
but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it
doesn''t
have a man page?
--
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did > something... ?I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, > but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t > have a man page?New website with all of the missing documentation. www.google.com It may take you a little bit to find what you''re looking for, as they contain far more documentation than you could ever read in a lifetime. /I kid! //not really -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did > something... ?I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, > but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t > have a man page?On a slightly more helpful note, once you know the name of the rpm which provided the package, you can use ''rpm -qd packagename'' to see the documentation included with that package. Not everything has a manpage, but there might be a readme or other doc with info. -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Jim Perrin wrote:> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote: >> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did >> something... ?I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, >> but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t >> have a man page? >What? You can''t read Postscript with less?? /usr/share/doc/iproute-2.6.18/ss.ps ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Wildman, CISSP, RHCE jim at rossberry.com http://www.rossberry.com "Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." Thomas Paine
on 2-25-2009 9:50 AM Les Mikesell spake the following:> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did > something... I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, > but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t > have a man page? >ss is part of iproute. It is similar to netstat. -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don''t!!!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 258 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20090225/e18646f6/attachment.bin
Scott Silva wrote:> on 2-25-2009 9:50 AM Les Mikesell spake the following: >> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did >> something... I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, >> but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t >> have a man page? >> > ss is part of iproute. It is similar to netstat.Yeah, but where''s the ''teach a man to fish...''? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
Jim Perrin wrote:> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote: >> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did >> something... I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, >> but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t >> have a man page? > > New website with all of the missing documentation. www.google.com > > It may take you a little bit to find what you''re looking for, as they > contain far more documentation than you could ever read in a lifetime. > > /I kid! > //not really >I was hoping for something easier than reading the 344,000,000 hits on google. Not kidding either. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 01:00:39PM -0500, Jim Perrin wrote:> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote: > > I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did > > something... ?I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, > > but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t > > have a man page? > > On a slightly more helpful note, once you know the name of the rpm > which provided the package, you can use ''rpm -qd packagename'' to seeOr, using the "f" option % rpm -qdf /usr/sbin/ss Which could be combined with a simple grep: % grep -lw ss $(rpm -qdf /usr/sbin/ss) /usr/share/doc/iproute-2.6.18/RELNOTES /usr/share/doc/iproute-2.6.18/ss.ps They''re the 2 files I''d look at! -- rgds Stephen
on 2-25-2009 10:29 AM Les Mikesell spake the following:> Scott Silva wrote: >> on 2-25-2009 9:50 AM Les Mikesell spake the following: >>> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did >>> something... I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, >>> but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t >>> have a man page? >>> >> ss is part of iproute. It is similar to netstat. > > Yeah, but where''s the ''teach a man to fish...''? >Jim Perrin tried to teach you to fish, but as you found out, there are a lot of fish in lake Google! OK.. Here is the fishing lesson. "which ss" gives you a path "yum provides /usr/sbin/ss" gives you a package name "ls /usr/share/doc/$packagename" gives you some files to look at. in that listing was ss.ps. Find a way to open or read ss.ps like gv or ggv and you have some info. CSI it ain''t! -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don''t!!!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 258 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20090225/83d29bc7/attachment.bin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Jim Perrin <jperrin at gmail.com> wrote:> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote: >> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did >> something... ?I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, >> but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t >> have a man page? > > New website with all of the missing documentation. www.google.com >Thanks, Jim - I desperately needed a good laugh! mhr
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Scott Silva <ssilva at sgvwater.com> wrote:> on 2-25-2009 10:29 AM Les Mikesell spake the following: >> Scott Silva wrote: >>> on 2-25-2009 9:50 AM Les Mikesell spake the following: >>>> I accidentally typed ss instead of ls and was surprised when it did >>>> something... ?I can use rpm''s --whatprovides to see where it came from, >>>> but how are you supposed to find out want a program does when it doesn''t >>>> have a man page? >>>> >>> ss is part of iproute. It is similar to netstat. >> >> Yeah, but where''s the ''teach a man to fish...''? >> > Jim Perrin tried to teach you to fish, but as you found out, there are a lot > of fish in lake Google! > > OK.. Here is the fishing lesson. > > "which ss" gives you a path > > "yum provides /usr/sbin/ss" gives you a package name > > "ls /usr/share/doc/$packagename" gives you some files to look at. > > in that listing was ss.ps. Find a way to open or read ss.ps like gv or ggv and > you have some info. > > > CSI it ain''t!Reading postscript is easy with ghostscript: # ps2ascii ss.ps | more Should have all the pieces necessary now... -Ross
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:07:12AM -0800, Scott Silva wrote:> Subject: Re: [CentOS] programs with no man pages?Upstream (debian then Fedora ) there seems to be a man page. SS(8) SS(8) NAME ss - another utility to investigate sockets SYNOPSIS ss [options] [ FILTER ] DESCRIPTION ss is used to dump socket statistics. It allows showing information similar to netstat. It can dis- play more TCP and state informations than other tools. .... -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what?