I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. Thanks for any help.
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 08:47 -0800, Fong Vang wrote:> I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the > installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot > fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the > kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is > that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when > moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New > system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). > > Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling > USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. > > Thanks for any help.That is very strange. One thing to look at the BIOS of the motherboard. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20060328/0ad88c97/attachment.bin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 01:22:10PM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:> On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 08:47 -0800, Fong Vang wrote: > > I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the > > installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot > > fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the > > kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is > > that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when > > moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New > > system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). > > > > Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling > > USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > That is very strange. One thing to look at the BIOS of the motherboard.One thing I noticed today is that if you are booting 4.3 with LVM partitions, it will take some time to handle them right at the start (right after the "RedHat nash" message. In a new machine I installed today, it could take as long as 2 minutes (in one of the reboots). []s - -- Rodrigo Barbosa <rodrigob@suespammers.org> "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEKbPLpdyWzQ5b5ckRAhxBAKCdEL7AYyp768eY79id/xkFge2pCwCgp+Jp wAc4o1qx8D5Srp5X7eaNJ2I=NyHB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 3/28/06, Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com> wrote:> On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 08:47 -0800, Fong Vang wrote: > > I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the > > installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot > > fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the > > kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is > > that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when > > moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New > > system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). > > > > Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling > > USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > That is very strange. One thing to look at the BIOS of the motherboard.It''s very strange. I''ve looked at the BIOS but nothing seem to jump out. The hang is occurring too early in the boot process to tell what''s wrong.> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQBEKYziTKkMgmrBY7MRAsdZAJ9Da1nLh1azw7r7ek1jTuefAgGM9ACfYZqA > nttzdURPJeAx6Ijw9Cni0CI> =OUph > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > >
On 3/28/06, Rodrigo Barbosa <rodrigob@suespammers.org> wrote:> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 01:22:10PM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 08:47 -0800, Fong Vang wrote: > > > I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the > > > installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot > > > fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the > > > kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is > > > that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when > > > moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New > > > system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). > > > > > > Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling > > > USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > That is very strange. One thing to look at the BIOS of the motherboard. > > One thing I noticed today is that if you are booting 4.3 with LVM partitions, > it will take some time to handle them right at the start (right after > the "RedHat nash" message. In a new machine I installed today, it could > take as long as 2 minutes (in one of the reboots).I''ve left it over night. It was still stuck after the initrd loaded message. We''re not using LVM.> []s > > - -- > Rodrigo Barbosa <rodrigob@suespammers.org> > "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" > "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEKbPLpdyWzQ5b5ckRAhxBAKCdEL7AYyp768eY79id/xkFge2pCwCgp+Jp > wAc4o1qx8D5Srp5X7eaNJ2I> =NyHB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 14:18 -0800, Fong Vang wrote:> On 3/28/06, Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 08:47 -0800, Fong Vang wrote: > > > I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the > > > installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot > > > fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the > > > kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is > > > that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when > > > moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New > > > system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). > > > > > > Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling > > > USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > That is very strange. One thing to look at the BIOS of the motherboard. > > It''s very strange. I''ve looked at the BIOS but nothing seem to jump > out. The hang is occurring too early in the boot process to tell > what''s wrong. >Might search the archives. IIRC, one poster the other day discovered that on his particular MB, the presence of a USB header jumper caused a problem. Probably not your situation, but the archives might inspire some ideas. Also, strip the machine of *everything* you can and start install and see how it goes. Turn off everything in the bios that you can. If you get a good install, enable stuff one-by-one. Google for your MoBo and either Fedora or CentOS 4 and maybe their are clues there. Tech support for the MoBo may have the answer already too. Check their forums. HTH Bill -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20060328/4c4362ef/attachment.bin
SOLVED... After careful inspection, it turns out the newer systems have a BIOS that''s slightly newer. This, somehow, broke compability with Linux booting. After we flushed the problematic systems with the newest BIOS, the systems are booting again. On 3/28/06, William L. Maltby <BillsCentOS@triad.rr.com> wrote:> On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 14:18 -0800, Fong Vang wrote: > > On 3/28/06, Johnny Hughes <mailing-lists@hughesjr.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 08:47 -0800, Fong Vang wrote: > > > > I have a couple of systems here that are refusing to boot after the > > > > installation of CentOS 4.3 when done through Kickstart. They boot > > > > fine when installed from CD. The boot hangs after grub loads the > > > > kernel and initrd. The cursor is still flashing. The strange thing is > > > > that the same drive containing the OS installation boots fine when > > > > moved to a slightly older system (older system uses Nacona CPU. New > > > > system uses Irwindale CPU. Both use the same motherboard). > > > > > > > > Any idea how to troubleshoot it at this point? I''ve tried disabling > > > > USB, APIC, etc. without much luck. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > That is very strange. One thing to look at the BIOS of the motherboard. > > > > It''s very strange. I''ve looked at the BIOS but nothing seem to jump > > out. The hang is occurring too early in the boot process to tell > > what''s wrong. > > > > Might search the archives. IIRC, one poster the other day discovered > that on his particular MB, the presence of a USB header jumper caused a > problem. Probably not your situation, but the archives might inspire > some ideas. Also, strip the machine of *everything* you can and start > install and see how it goes. Turn off everything in the bios that you > can. If you get a good install, enable stuff one-by-one. > > Google for your MoBo and either Fedora or CentOS 4 and maybe their are > clues there. Tech support for the MoBo may have the answer already too. > Check their forums. > > HTH > Bill > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQBEKgt3/1DcCJj5ZgkRAvaBAJ0WK1rAaR3QMH4V0kwnDCP3EHjnRACfceLs > v5PI+LTKl+mbmp9gAKapLgw> =BrnA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > >