CentOS - Sep 2005 - plan of action?

greetings,

can someone(s) in authority please come up with a plan(s) of action in
regards to this list medium?

unfortunately this list has pretty much reached the point of no return and
has become virtually useless.

 - rh

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Robert <roberth at abbacomm.net> wrote:
> greetings,
> can someone(s) in authority please come up with a plan(s)
> of action in regards to this list medium?
> unfortunately this list has pretty much reached the point
> of no return and has become virtually useless.
One thing that is really shocking me is how many people
"lurk"  and don't bother to answer questions, and the only
time they post is to ask them ... or worse yet ... only enter
"meta-discussions."  I'm actually answering questions,
regularly, among a few other people.

So maybe I should just start asking technical questions
instead of answering them?  So maybe it's because I virtually
_never_ ask them, hence why some select people think I'm here
"sporting my knowledge."  God that gets to me!

Now let's get _exact_.
>From what Preston posted, he had obviously not even bothered
to thing things through, let alone not even hit the man page
about mplayer -- which is why the majority of his post was
_not_ about his question, but some other tangent!  He might
have not known about the "-endpos" option directly, but the
man page _does_ lay out how to do bit rate, even if not
straight-forward.

Now people can accuse me of "liking to hear myself talk." 
But man, I'm tired of people who have stories to tell with
virtually *0* technical investigation or info in their first
post, then turn around and complain about _me_ when I try it
point out there are Linux solutions.  This hypocrisy is
happening over and over.

I guess the only way to solve it is to just not post to the
list.  And I'm going to stop helping select people too.



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Possible solutions that require zero involvement from the already busy
project team:

1. Use your email client to better manage the flow and turn it into a trickle
2. Use the forums on your time rather than having it emailed in and
disrupting your life http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb
3. Subscribe to the list using an account that you use specifically
for the list (I'll send gmail invites to anyone interested) and only
read that account when you want...otherwise, ignore it
4. Unsubscribe

You can combine 2 and 4 for maximum effect.

Given those options, why does the project team need to get involved?

Greg

Let me start by saying that this forum has been extremely helpful for 
me.  I am not sure where I would place myself as far as Linux 
experience/qualifications, since I believe there are many like me out 
there (or maybe I am hoping there are) that do not exactly fit into the 
routine beginner, intermediate or expert classes.  Over the last 30 
years I have been writing DBMS applications that manage 60-70% of the 
national class action lawsuits, and being a DBMS oriented programmer, 
does not out of necessity, expose me to what's under the hood.  My 
concern is that the OS works.

So, every few years I reinstall an upgraded OS for my Windows server and 
my Linux servers in my home office.  Then I just let them run.  For 
Linux, many questions arise that underlines something I have learned 
over the years:  Linux administrators need to understand computers in 
general and the OS in particular at a very detailed level.  Not as true 
for Windows administrators.  I tried by taking a course on Linux admin 
at a local JC, but only had reinforced how much there is to know and how 
I respect those that administer Linux systems.

The result is that I try to get the nswers from the many Linux books I 
have, but asking those of you that have contact daily with Linux more 
times than not gives me salient answers to my questions.

All I can say is a BIG THANK YOU for your patience and willingness to 
help.  And maybe an apology is needed for asking about YUM, but I just 
wanted to know (briefly) why some of the Linux Admins do not like it 
(for me, it is just great).  After a few replies the question was 
adequately answered...for me, it did not take the remainder of replies.

Todd

Robert wrote:
>greetings,
>
>can someone(s) in authority please come up with a plan(s) of action in
>regards to this list medium?
>
>unfortunately this list has pretty much reached the point of no return and
>has become virtually useless.
>
> - rh
>
>--
>Robert - Abba Communications
>Computers & Internet Sales/Service 
>www.abbacomm.net
>
>_______________________________________________
>CentOS mailing list
>CentOS at centos.org
>http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>
>
>  
>
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On 15/9/05 9:24 pm, in article 20050915202437.EB1C3F3C270 at mail.centos.org,
"Robert" <roberth at abbacomm.net> wrote:
> can someone(s) in authority please come up with a plan(s) of action in
> regards to this list medium?
> 
> unfortunately this list has pretty much reached the point of no return and
> has become virtually useless.
Usenet newsgroups suffer from problems -- like off topic threads and
abusive/trolling individuals -- which can also hit high traffic email lists
like this one.

Newsreader software has adapted with features like thread- and user-based
killing.

You can subscribe to this email list as a newsgroup (NNTP) feed via
gmane.org. It's free, and you can still post. I recommended it.

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