CentOS docs - Sep 2020 - Misleading information on main page about Centos Stream

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, at 14:26, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:28:58PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> 
> > This is pretty misleading. Isn't Stream just a collection of repos
that
> > offer pre-release packages for the next RHEL point release? It's
not a
> > midstream between Fedora and RHEL.
> 
> Along those lines, if someone's adjusting text in there, I'd tend
to think
> "rolling release" indicates that one could go from RHEL 8 to 9
without a
> reinstall, but unless something's changed, major version moves will
require
> a reinstall, just like standard CentOS.
> 
> I'd love to learn that my understanding is outdated!
> 
> -- 
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> mason at blisses.org     ))  build  their nest  with fragments  dropped
> http://blisses.org/  ((   from day's caravan." - Rabindranath
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These are both good pieces of feedback, we're considering some of the
wording here. Keep in mind that CentOS Stream is still ramping up (even though
we've come a long way already).

We want to communicate a few things like:
- CentOS Stream is made up of content intended for the next minor release of
RHEL
- It is (or will be) a way to accept code contributions and dialog directly with
RHEL maintainers
- There is one "Live" Stream open for such contribution at a time.
Currently this is the CentOS Stream that's previewing RHEL 8. You'll
likely need to perform a reinstall to jump from a CentOS Stream that previews
RHEL 8 content to a CentOS Stream that previews later releases

--Brian
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:05 AM Brian Stinson <brian at bstinson.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, at 14:26, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:28:58PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
> > This is pretty misleading. Isn't Stream just a collection of repos
that
> > offer pre-release packages for the next RHEL point release? It's
not a
> > midstream between Fedora and RHEL.
>
> Along those lines, if someone's adjusting text in there, I'd tend
to think
> "rolling release" indicates that one could go from RHEL 8 to 9
without a
> reinstall, but unless something's changed, major version moves will
require
> a reinstall, just like standard CentOS.
>
> I'd love to learn that my understanding is outdated!
>
> --
> Mason Loring Bliss   ((  "In the drowsy dark cave of the mind dreams
> mason at blisses.org     ))  build  their nest  with fragments  dropped
> http://blisses.org/  ((   from day's caravan." - Rabindranath
Tagore
>
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> These are both good pieces of feedback, we're considering some of the
> wording here. Keep in mind that CentOS Stream is still ramping up (even
> though we've come a long way already).
>
> We want to communicate a few things like:
> - CentOS Stream is made up of content intended for the next minor release
> of RHEL
>
Is CentOS Stream based on the next minor or major release of RHEL?

> - It is (or will be) a way to accept code contributions and dialog
> directly with RHEL maintainers
> - There is one "Live" Stream open for such contribution at a
time.
> Currently this is the CentOS Stream that's previewing RHEL 8.
You'll likely
> need to perform a reinstall to jump from a CentOS Stream that previews RHEL
> 8 content to a CentOS Stream that previews later releases
>
> --Brian
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On 09/09/2020 07:15, Dominik Holler wrote:
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> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:05 AM Brian Stinson <brian at bstinson.com 
> <mailto:brian at bstinson.com>> wrote:
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>     On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, at 14:26, Mason Loring Bliss wrote:
>>     On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:28:58PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>>
>>     > This is pretty misleading. Isn't Stream just a collection
of
>>     repos that
>>     > offer pre-release packages for the next RHEL point release?
It's
>>     not a
>>     > midstream between Fedora and RHEL.
>>
>>     Along those lines, if someone's adjusting text in there,
I'd tend
>>     to think
>>     "rolling release" indicates that one could go from RHEL 8
to 9
>>     without a
>>     reinstall, but unless something's changed, major version moves
>>     will require
>>     a reinstall, just like standard CentOS.
>>
>>     I'd love to learn that my understanding is outdated!
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Mason Loring Bliss?? ((? "In the drowsy dark cave of the mind
dreams
>>     mason at blisses.org <mailto:mason at blisses.org>???? ))?
build? their
>>     nest? with fragments? dropped
>>     http://blisses.org/? ((?? from day's caravan." -
Rabindranath Tagore
>>
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>     These are both good pieces of feedback, we're considering some of
>     the wording here. Keep in mind that CentOS Stream is still ramping
>     up (even though we've come a long way already).
> 
>     We want to communicate a few things like:
>     - CentOS Stream is made up of content intended for the next minor
>     release of RHEL
> 
> 
> Is CentOS Stream based on the next minor or major release of RHEL?
> 
Neither. The next minor release of RHEL8 is based on CentOS Stream. i.e, 
what you see in the current CentOS Stream should/will be in minor RHEL 
release - RHEL 8.3.