CentOS docs - Sep 2018 - [CentOS-devel] Authorization to use CentOS logo in GNOME Boxes

Thanks Rich for drawing this forward, I had missed it.  (I generally
handle all the trademark usage queries.)

The key reference is this one, the trademark guidelines:

https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/

That document should give the GNOME project all of the authorization and
guidelines on how to use and not use the CentOS marks.

Fabiano -- if you have any further questions, you may also direct them
to centos-tm at centos.org .

Rich -- it looks as if we need to update or clarify on the wiki around
the appearance of the (R) in the marks.  There is a link in a section
there called "Usage Restrictions"[1] but it isn't terribly
visible.  I
just added a new short paragraph at the top of the page referring to the
guidelines.

Best regards,

- Karsten

[1]
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-f379d7da0b5da9a7161148c5c9a093a00085975b




On 09/18/2018 07:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion
> from someone on the board.
> 
> In particular, the guidelines at
> https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that we're
> not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all
> the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and who
can
> we go to for further clarification?
> 
> --Rich
> 
> On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fid?ncio wrote:
>> People,
>>
>> Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and centos-docs).
>>
>> I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal authorization to
>> use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few
>> other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
>>
>> Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could use
>> CentOS logo as well?
>>
>> [0]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
>> [1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes/raw/master/README.logos
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
> 
-- 
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Karsten,

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Karsten Wade <kwade at redhat.com>
wrote:
> Thanks Rich for drawing this forward, I had missed it.  (I generally
> handle all the trademark usage queries.)
>
> The key reference is this one, the trademark guidelines:
>
> https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/
>
> That document should give the GNOME project all of the authorization and
> guidelines on how to use and not use the CentOS marks.
>
> Fabiano -- if you have any further questions, you may also direct them
> to centos-tm at centos.org .
>
> Rich -- it looks as if we need to update or clarify on the wiki around
> the appearance of the (R) in the marks.  There is a link in a section
> there called "Usage Restrictions"[1] but it isn't terribly
visible.  I
> just added a new short paragraph at the top of the page referring to the
> guidelines.
My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided here[0].
However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and
we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]

Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a
violation of the trademark.

[0]:
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-bf605cecf99c819d5a39e726ffb928999e1a13e6
[1]:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:CentOS#/media/File:CentOS_color_logo.svg
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Karsten
>
> [1]
>
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-f379d7da0b5da9a7161148c5c9a093a00085975b
>
>
>
>
> On 09/18/2018 07:23 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get an official opinion
>> from someone on the board.
>>
>> In particular, the guidelines at
>> https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo seem to indicate that
we're
>> not supposed to use the logo without the wordmark, but we do that all
>> the time, even on official swag. What's the official ruling, and
who can
>> we go to for further clarification?
>>
>> --Rich
>>
>> On 6/19/18 7:29 AM, Fabiano Fid?ncio wrote:
>>> People,
>>>
>>> Firstly, sorry for the cross-list post (centos-devel and
centos-docs).
>>>
>>> I'd like to reach you in order to ask for a formal
authorization to
>>> use CentOS logo on GNOME Boxes[0]. GNOME Boxes already shows a few
>>> other distro's logos as you can check here[1].
>>>
>>> Would be possible to get the explicit confirmation that we could
use
>>> CentOS logo as well?
>>>
>>> [0]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes
>>> [1]:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-boxes/raw/master/README.logos
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Karsten Wade | Community Architect | @quaid
> Red Hat Open Source and Standards (OSAS) : @redhatopen
> https://community.redhat.com | https://next.redhat.com | https://osci.io
> gpg: AD0E0C41 | https://red.ht/sig
>


-- 
Fabiano Fid?ncio

On 09/18/2018 11:03 AM, Fabiano Fid?ncio wrote:
> My understanding is that we can use all the CentOS marks provided here[0].
> However, those unfortunately are not looking good enough on Boxes and
> we'd like to use, if possible, just the logo as in here[1]
> 
> Would that be possible? As far as I could understand that would be a
> violation of the trademark.
> 
> [0]:
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo#head-bf605cecf99c819d5a39e726ffb928999e1a13e6
> [1]:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:CentOS#/media/File:CentOS_color_logo.svg
Hi Fabiano,

Thanks for clarifying and that connects with what Rich said about how
we've used just the graphic logo mark in practice but do not have a
guideline that allows that on the ArtWork wiki.

This item is actually on my short list of things to clarify for the
trademark guidelines and updates on the ArtWork page.

For the moment, we can pursue a specific permission for GNOME Boxes.
Can you provide a mock-up of how it would appear on the page?

I'm looking at https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes but am not sure how it
would appear.  Am I correct that the logo would appear when running the
GNOME Boxes application inside of a GNOME session?  If yes, is there
also a corresponding use on the website?  A mock-up from there would be
useful as well.

Knowing that this has been missed for a few months, I'll work through
the discussions on our side to expedite a decision for you.

Regards,

- Karsten
-- 
Karsten Wade | Community Architect | @quaid
Red Hat Open Source and Standards (OSAS) : @redhatopen
https://community.redhat.com | https://next.redhat.com | https://osci.io
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