Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing is written and the user is never notified. Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to enter another? -- Dave
I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks something like this: In the controller: if @user.valid? # everything is fine else # ops! @user.errors contains the errors end //Magnus Holm On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote:> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide > feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses > "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing > is written and the user is never notified. > > Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing > the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to > enter another? > > -- > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/camping-list/attachments/20090520/2a60a5d6/attachment.html>
Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the error messages. -- Eric On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote:> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks something like > this: > In the controller: > if @user.valid? > ??# everything is fine > else > ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors > end > //Magnus Holm > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing >> is written and the user is never notified. >> >> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >> enter another? >> >> -- >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >
So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save instead of create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and not true of false based on my validations. Dave On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls > #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or > not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the > error messages. > > -- Eric > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote: >> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks something like >> this: >> In the controller: >> if @user.valid? >> ??# everything is fine >> else >> ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors >> end >> //Magnus Holm >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing >>> is written and the user is never notified. >>> >>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >>> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >>> enter another? >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camping-list mailing list >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >-- Dave
In my create actions, I customarily do like @user = User.new params[:user if @user.save ... else ... end But update_attributes should also return true or false, I believe. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote:> So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save instead of > create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and not > true of false based on my validations. > > Dave > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls >> #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or >> not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the >> error messages. >> >> -- Eric >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote: >>> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks something like >>> this: >>> In the controller: >>> if @user.valid? >>> ??# everything is fine >>> else >>> ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors >>> end >>> //Magnus Holm >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >>>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >>>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing >>>> is written and the user is never notified. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >>>> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >>>> enter another? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Camping-list mailing list >>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camping-list mailing list >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > > > > -- > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >
Thanks, I''ve gotten it to work. On this part though: @user = User.new params[:user Is the closing bracket missing? Is params something from Rails that allows you to create the user instance variable all in one line instead of doing something like this: @user = User.new( :id => input.id, :name => input.name, ... ) Can I use it in a camping app relatively easily? Dave On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote:> In my create actions, I customarily do like > > @user = User.new params[:user > if @user.save > ?... > else > ?... > end > > But update_attributes should also return true or false, I believe. > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >> So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save instead of >> create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and not >> true of false based on my validations. >> >> Dave >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls >>> #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or >>> not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the >>> error messages. >>> >>> -- Eric >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks something like >>>> this: >>>> In the controller: >>>> if @user.valid? >>>> ??# everything is fine >>>> else >>>> ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors >>>> end >>>> //Magnus Holm >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >>>>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >>>>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing >>>>> is written and the user is never notified. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >>>>> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >>>>> enter another? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dave >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Camping-list mailing list >>>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Camping-list mailing list >>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camping-list mailing list >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >-- Dave
Hah, yeah, the bracket is missing. And in Camping, the equivalent of Rails'' "params" is "@input". -- Eric On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote:> Thanks, I''ve gotten it to work. > > On this part though: @user = User.new params[:user > > Is the closing bracket missing? Is params something from Rails that > allows you to create the user instance variable all in one line > instead of doing something like this: > > @user = User.new( > ?:id => input.id, > ?:name => input.name, > ?... > ) > > Can I use it in a camping app relatively easily? > > Dave > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >> In my create actions, I customarily do like >> >> @user = User.new params[:user >> if @user.save >> ?... >> else >> ?... >> end >> >> But update_attributes should also return true or false, I believe. >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>> So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save instead of >>> create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and not >>> true of false based on my validations. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls >>>> #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or >>>> not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the >>>> error messages. >>>> >>>> -- Eric >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks something like >>>>> this: >>>>> In the controller: >>>>> if @user.valid? >>>>> ??# everything is fine >>>>> else >>>>> ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors >>>>> end >>>>> //Magnus Holm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >>>>>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >>>>>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however nothing >>>>>> is written and the user is never notified. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >>>>>> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >>>>>> enter another? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Camping-list mailing list >>>>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Camping-list mailing list >>>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Camping-list mailing list >>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camping-list mailing list >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > > > > -- > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >
params is simply Rails'' version of @input.
If you name your keys "user[id]" and "user[name]" in the
HTML, then
@input.user should contain a Hash like { ''id'' => ...,
''name'' => ... } (maybe
the keys are Symbols; I don''t remember at the moment)
//Magnus Holm
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 15:50, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, I''ve gotten it to work.
>
> On this part though: @user = User.new params[:user
>
> Is the closing bracket missing? Is params something from Rails that
> allows you to create the user instance variable all in one line
> instead of doing something like this:
>
> @user = User.new(
> :id => input.id,
> :name => input.name,
> ...
> )
>
> Can I use it in a camping app relatively easily?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > In my create actions, I customarily do like
> >
> > @user = User.new params[:user
> > if @user.save
> > ...
> > else
> > ...
> > end
> >
> > But update_attributes should also return true or false, I believe.
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Susco <dsusco at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >> So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save
instead of
> >> create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and
not
> >> true of false based on my validations.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at
gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which
internally calls
> >>> #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was
saved or
> >>> not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is
populated with the
> >>> error messages.
> >>>
> >>> -- Eric
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at
gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I
think it looks something
> like
> >>>> this:
> >>>> In the controller:
> >>>> if @user.valid?
> >>>> # everything is fine
> >>>> else
> >>>> # ops! @user.errors contains the errors
> >>>> end
> >>>> //Magnus Holm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at
gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to
provide
> >>>>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses
> >>>>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title
isn''t unique however nothing
> >>>>> is written and the user is never notified.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go
about informing
> >>>>> the user that the title they entered was not unique
and they need to
> >>>>> enter another?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Camping-list mailing list
> >>>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Camping-list mailing list
> >>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Camping-list mailing list
> >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Camping-list mailing list
> >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Camping-list mailing list
> > Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> Camping-list mailing list
> Camping-list at rubyforge.org
> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
>
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Thanks guys, That helped get rid of a lot of code. Dave On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote:> params is simply Rails'' version of @input. > If you name your keys "user[id]" and "user[name]" in the HTML, then > @input.user should contain a Hash like { ''id'' => ..., ''name'' => ... } (maybe > the keys are Symbols; I don''t remember at the moment) > //Magnus Holm > > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 15:50, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks, I''ve gotten it to work. >> >> On this part though: @user = User.new params[:user >> >> Is the closing bracket missing? Is params something from Rails that >> allows you to create the user instance variable all in one line >> instead of doing something like this: >> >> @user = User.new( >> ?:id => input.id, >> ?:name => input.name, >> ?... >> ) >> >> Can I use it in a camping app relatively easily? >> >> Dave >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >> > In my create actions, I customarily do like >> > >> > @user = User.new params[:user >> > if @user.save >> > ?... >> > else >> > ?... >> > end >> > >> > But update_attributes should also return true or false, I believe. >> > >> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save instead of >> >> create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and not >> >> true of false based on my validations. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls >> >>> #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or >> >>> not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the >> >>> error messages. >> >>> >> >>> -- Eric >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks >> >>>> something like >> >>>> this: >> >>>> In the controller: >> >>>> if @user.valid? >> >>>> ??# everything is fine >> >>>> else >> >>>> ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors >> >>>> end >> >>>> //Magnus Holm >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >> >>>>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >> >>>>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however >> >>>>> nothing >> >>>>> is written and the user is never notified. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >> >>>>> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >> >>>>> enter another? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Dave >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Camping-list mailing list >> >>>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Camping-list mailing list >> >>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Camping-list mailing list >> >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Camping-list mailing list >> >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Camping-list mailing list >> > Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >-- Dave
Awesome! The only thing more fun than writing code is deleting code. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:09 AM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote:> Thanks guys, > > That helped get rid of a lot of code. > > Dave > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> wrote: >> params is simply Rails'' version of @input. >> If you name your keys "user[id]" and "user[name]" in the HTML, then >> @input.user should contain a Hash like { ''id'' => ..., ''name'' => ... } (maybe >> the keys are Symbols; I don''t remember at the moment) >> //Magnus Holm >> >> >> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 15:50, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, I''ve gotten it to work. >>> >>> On this part though: @user = User.new params[:user >>> >>> Is the closing bracket missing? Is params something from Rails that >>> allows you to create the user instance variable all in one line >>> instead of doing something like this: >>> >>> @user = User.new( >>> ?:id => input.id, >>> ?:name => input.name, >>> ?... >>> ) >>> >>> Can I use it in a camping app relatively easily? >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> wrote: >>> > In my create actions, I customarily do like >>> > >>> > @user = User.new params[:user >>> > if @user.save >>> > ?... >>> > else >>> > ?... >>> > end >>> > >>> > But update_attributes should also return true or false, I believe. >>> > >>> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> So, in my crud controllers, should I be using calls to save instead of >>> >> create and update_attributes? As those just return the object, and not >>> >> true of false based on my validations. >>> >> >>> >> Dave >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Eric Mill <kprojection at gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, but in practice, you''d call @user.save, which internally calls >>> >>> #valid?, and returns true or false on whether the object was saved or >>> >>> not. If the object wasn''t saved, @user.errors is populated with the >>> >>> error messages. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Magnus Holm <judofyr at gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I''m a little rusty on AR at the moment, but I think it looks >>> >>>> something like >>> >>>> this: >>> >>>> In the controller: >>> >>>> if @user.valid? >>> >>>> ??# everything is fine >>> >>>> else >>> >>>> ??# ops! @user.errors contains the errors >>> >>>> end >>> >>>> //Magnus Holm >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:43, David Susco <dsusco at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Can ActiveRecord::Validations::ClassMethods be used to provide >>> >>>>> feedback to the user? I noticed the tepee example uses >>> >>>>> "validates_uniqueness_of ". If the title isn''t unique however >>> >>>>> nothing >>> >>>>> is written and the user is never notified. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Does anyone have an example or two of how I could go about informing >>> >>>>> the user that the title they entered was not unique and they need to >>> >>>>> enter another? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> Dave >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> Camping-list mailing list >>> >>>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> >>>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Camping-list mailing list >>> >>>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> >>>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Camping-list mailing list >>> >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Dave >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Camping-list mailing list >>> >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Camping-list mailing list >>> > Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camping-list mailing list >>> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >>> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Camping-list mailing list >> Camping-list at rubyforge.org >> http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >> > > > > -- > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Camping-list mailing list > Camping-list at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list >