Btrfs devel - Feb 2013 - User feedback: raise the default leaf size to 16k

Hi,

after using btrfs with 3.7.x and default settings without any problems so
far (knock on wood!) I had to redo a 1TB filesystem and this time decided
to try two small changes:

- raise the leaf size to 16k
- use single metadata profile

After restoring the contents (~300GB, mix of large and small files) the
difference in behaviour on a single disk is *very* noticeable.
Therefore I want to suggest changing the default values accordingly. IMHO
the new behaviour - maybe including the single metadata redundancy - is
much more in line with behaviour that people expect out of the box. I
believe many cases where users report degrading performance over time can
be attributed to this. Whether single metadata is too much of a risk I
cannot judge, but please at least raise the default leaf size.

Just my 0.01€ of user feedback :)

thanks
Holger


--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs"
in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

On 2013/02/13 12:33 PM, Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> - raise the leaf size to 16k
> - use single metadata profile
>
> ...
>
> the difference in behaviour on a single disk is *very* noticeable.
Did you try an isolated change of leaf size? I think the devs would be 
willing to look into the default size if it makes a dramatic difference 
on its own. Personally I think you are seeing an improvement more as a 
result of the metadata profile rather than the leafsize.

I don''t think changing the default profile for metadata will be easily 
entertained as this is very important for protecting against corruption 
due to bitrot.

-- 
__________
Brendan Hide
http://swiftspirit.co.za/
http://www.webafrica.co.za/?AFF1E97

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs"
in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 03:33:30AM -0700, Brendan Hide
wrote:
> On 2013/02/13 12:33 PM, Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> > - raise the leaf size to 16k
> > - use single metadata profile
> >
> > ...
> >
> > the difference in behaviour on a single disk is *very* noticeable.
> Did you try an isolated change of leaf size? I think the devs would be 
> willing to look into the default size if it makes a dramatic difference 
> on its own. Personally I think you are seeing an improvement more as a 
> result of the metadata profile rather than the leafsize.
> 
> I don''t think changing the default profile for metadata will be
easily
> entertained as this is very important for protecting against corruption 
> due to bitrot.
The long term plan is to set the default size to 16K, since this does
cut down on metadata fragmentation.  But in some benchmarks, it adds lock
contention because we have fewer blocks to spread the locks over.

The 3.9 merge window has fixes for lock contention, so I need to
benchmark things again.

-chris
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs"
in
the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html