As you might know, I have been seeing btrfs slowdowns in our ceph cluster for quite some time. Even with the latest btrfs code for 3.3 I''m still seeing these problems. To make things reproducible, I''ve now written a small test, that imitates ceph''s behavior: On a freshly created btrfs filesystem (2 TB size, mounted with "noatime,nodiratime,compress=lzo,space_cache,inode_cache") I''m opening 100 files. After that I''m doing random writes on these files with a sync_file_range after each write (each write has a size of 100 bytes) and ioctl(BTRFS_IOC_SYNC) after every 100 writes. After approximately 20 minutes, write activity suddenly increases fourfold and the average request size decreases (see chart in the attachment). You can find IOstat output here: http://pastebin.com/Smbfg1aG I hope that you are able to trace down the problem with the test program in the attachment. Thanks, Christian
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 01:13:37PM +0100, Christian Brunner wrote:> As you might know, I have been seeing btrfs slowdowns in our ceph > cluster for quite some time. Even with the latest btrfs code for 3.3 > I''m still seeing these problems. To make things reproducible, I''ve now > written a small test, that imitates ceph''s behavior: > > On a freshly created btrfs filesystem (2 TB size, mounted with > "noatime,nodiratime,compress=lzo,space_cache,inode_cache") I''m opening > 100 files. After that I''m doing random writes on these files with a > sync_file_range after each write (each write has a size of 100 bytes) > and ioctl(BTRFS_IOC_SYNC) after every 100 writes. > > After approximately 20 minutes, write activity suddenly increases > fourfold and the average request size decreases (see chart in the > attachment). > > You can find IOstat output here: http://pastebin.com/Smbfg1aG > > I hope that you are able to trace down the problem with the test > program in the attachment.Ran it, saw the problem, tried the dangerdonteveruse branch in Chris''s tree and formatted the fs with 64k node and leaf sizes and the problem appeared to go away. So surprise surprise fragmentation is biting us in the ass. If you can try running that branch with 64k node and leaf sizes with your ceph cluster and see how that works out. Course you should only do that if you dont mind if you lose everything :). Thanks, Josef -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 01:13:37PM +0100, Christian Brunner wrote: > > As you might know, I have been seeing btrfs slowdowns in our ceph > > cluster for quite some time. Even with the latest btrfs code for 3.3 > > I''m still seeing these problems. To make things reproducible, I''ve now > > written a small test, that imitates ceph''s behavior: > > > > On a freshly created btrfs filesystem (2 TB size, mounted with > > "noatime,nodiratime,compress=lzo,space_cache,inode_cache") I''m opening > > 100 files. After that I''m doing random writes on these files with a > > sync_file_range after each write (each write has a size of 100 bytes) > > and ioctl(BTRFS_IOC_SYNC) after every 100 writes. > > > > After approximately 20 minutes, write activity suddenly increases > > fourfold and the average request size decreases (see chart in the > > attachment). > > > > You can find IOstat output here: http://pastebin.com/Smbfg1aG > > > > I hope that you are able to trace down the problem with the test > > program in the attachment. > > Ran it, saw the problem, tried the dangerdonteveruse branch in Chris''s tree and > formatted the fs with 64k node and leaf sizes and the problem appeared to go > away. So surprise surprise fragmentation is biting us in the ass. If you can > try running that branch with 64k node and leaf sizes with your ceph cluster and > see how that works out. Course you should only do that if you dont mind if you > lose everything :). Thanks, >Please keep in mind this branch is only out there for development, and it really might have huge flaws. scrub doesn''t work with it correctly right now, and the IO error recovery code is probably broken too. Long term though, I think the bigger block sizes are going to make a huge difference in these workloads. If you use the very dangerous code: mkfs.btrfs -l 64k -n 64k /dev/xxx (-l is leaf size, -n is node size). 64K is the max right now, 32K may help just as much at a lower CPU cost. -chris -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
2012/1/23 Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>:> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 01:13:37PM +0100, Christian Brunner wrote: >> > As you might know, I have been seeing btrfs slowdowns in our ceph >> > cluster for quite some time. Even with the latest btrfs code for 3.3 >> > I''m still seeing these problems. To make things reproducible, I''ve now >> > written a small test, that imitates ceph''s behavior: >> > >> > On a freshly created btrfs filesystem (2 TB size, mounted with >> > "noatime,nodiratime,compress=lzo,space_cache,inode_cache") I''m opening >> > 100 files. After that I''m doing random writes on these files with a >> > sync_file_range after each write (each write has a size of 100 bytes) >> > and ioctl(BTRFS_IOC_SYNC) after every 100 writes. >> > >> > After approximately 20 minutes, write activity suddenly increases >> > fourfold and the average request size decreases (see chart in the >> > attachment). >> > >> > You can find IOstat output here: http://pastebin.com/Smbfg1aG >> > >> > I hope that you are able to trace down the problem with the test >> > program in the attachment. >> >> Ran it, saw the problem, tried the dangerdonteveruse branch in Chris''s tree and >> formatted the fs with 64k node and leaf sizes and the problem appeared to go >> away. So surprise surprise fragmentation is biting us in the ass. If you can >> try running that branch with 64k node and leaf sizes with your ceph cluster and >> see how that works out. Course you should only do that if you dont mind if you >> lose everything :). Thanks, >> > > Please keep in mind this branch is only out there for development, and > it really might have huge flaws. scrub doesn''t work with it correctly > right now, and the IO error recovery code is probably broken too. > > Long term though, I think the bigger block sizes are going to make a > huge difference in these workloads. > > If you use the very dangerous code: > > mkfs.btrfs -l 64k -n 64k /dev/xxx > > (-l is leaf size, -n is node size). > > 64K is the max right now, 32K may help just as much at a lower CPU cost.Thanks for taking a look. - I''m glad to hear that there is a solution on the horizon, but I''m not brave enough to try this on our ceph cluster. I''ll try it when the code has stabilized a bit. Regards, Christian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Hi I tried the branch on one of my ceph osd, and there is a big difference in the performance. The average request size stayed high, but after around a hour the kernel crashed. IOstat http://pastebin.com/xjuriJ6J Kernel trace http://pastebin.com/SYE95GgH -martin Am 23.01.2012 19:50, schrieb Chris Mason:> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 01:19:29PM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 01:13:37PM +0100, Christian Brunner wrote: >>> As you might know, I have been seeing btrfs slowdowns in our ceph >>> cluster for quite some time. Even with the latest btrfs code for 3.3 >>> I''m still seeing these problems. To make things reproducible, I''ve now >>> written a small test, that imitates ceph''s behavior: >>> >>> On a freshly created btrfs filesystem (2 TB size, mounted with >>> "noatime,nodiratime,compress=lzo,space_cache,inode_cache") I''m opening >>> 100 files. After that I''m doing random writes on these files with a >>> sync_file_range after each write (each write has a size of 100 bytes) >>> and ioctl(BTRFS_IOC_SYNC) after every 100 writes. >>> >>> After approximately 20 minutes, write activity suddenly increases >>> fourfold and the average request size decreases (see chart in the >>> attachment). >>> >>> You can find IOstat output here: http://pastebin.com/Smbfg1aG >>> >>> I hope that you are able to trace down the problem with the test >>> program in the attachment. >> >> Ran it, saw the problem, tried the dangerdonteveruse branch in Chris''s tree and >> formatted the fs with 64k node and leaf sizes and the problem appeared to go >> away. So surprise surprise fragmentation is biting us in the ass. If you can >> try running that branch with 64k node and leaf sizes with your ceph cluster and >> see how that works out. Course you should only do that if you dont mind if you >> lose everything :). Thanks, >> > > Please keep in mind this branch is only out there for development, and > it really might have huge flaws. scrub doesn''t work with it correctly > right now, and the IO error recovery code is probably broken too. > > Long term though, I think the bigger block sizes are going to make a > huge difference in these workloads. > > If you use the very dangerous code: > > mkfs.btrfs -l 64k -n 64k /dev/xxx > > (-l is leaf size, -n is node size). > > 64K is the max right now, 32K may help just as much at a lower CPU cost. > > -chris > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 08:15:58PM +0100, Martin Mailand wrote:> Hi > I tried the branch on one of my ceph osd, and there is a big > difference in the performance. > The average request size stayed high, but after around a hour the > kernel crashed. > > IOstat > http://pastebin.com/xjuriJ6J > > Kernel trace > http://pastebin.com/SYE95GgHAha, this I know how to fix. Thanks for trying it out. -chris -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Hi Chris, great to hear that, could you give me a ping if you fixed it, than I can retry it? -martin Am 24.01.2012 20:40, schrieb Chris Mason:> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 08:15:58PM +0100, Martin Mailand wrote: >> Hi >> I tried the branch on one of my ceph osd, and there is a big >> difference in the performance. >> The average request size stayed high, but after around a hour the >> kernel crashed. >> >> IOstat >> http://pastebin.com/xjuriJ6J >> >> Kernel trace >> http://pastebin.com/SYE95GgH > > Aha, this I know how to fix. Thanks for trying it out. > > -chris > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html