Hi, I am debugging an issue that unfortunately involves two NAT instances - the firewall at our customer site, and the firewall in front of their Amazon instance. I have an HTEK phone at the customer site registering to the public address of the Amazon instance running asterisk (and FreePBX). This seems to work fine, and it can call local services (like fpbx *65 to read back the extension) with no problems. If it tries to make an outbound outside call, the remote phone (my cell for example) rings, I answer it, but there is no audio in either direction for nearly exactly 16 seconds, every time. Then audio starts in both directions without issue. I did a packet trace on the phone itself and see 16 seconds of outbound RTP with no inbound, then suddenly RTP in both directions until the call ends. I did a packet trace on the asterisk side and see the call setup, then sixteen seconds of nothing (??), then RTP starts in both directions. In the asterisk console I see this bit of interestingness: [2019-07-24 13:21:02] DEBUG[1890]: chan_sip.c:29923 __start_session_timer: Session timer started: 78 - 710779684e62266a77b047b31e4 261da at 10.0.116.239:60060 1768000ms -- SIP/ast01-0000024b answered SIP/7222-0000024a [.....snip.....] [2019-07-24 13:21:02] DEBUG[17928][C-000001f1]: bridge_native_rtp.c:660 native_rtp_bridge_compatible_check: Bridge '3bfbf253-d34f- 45e2-abc3-75e590d81739' can not use native RTP bridge as channel 'SIP/ast01-0000024b' has DTMF hooks [.....snip.....] [2019-07-24 13:21:18] DEBUG[18003][C-000001f1]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:4179 ast_rtp_write: Ooh, format changed from none to ulaw [2019-07-24 13:21:18] DEBUG[18003][C-000001f1]: res_rtp_asterisk.c:4019 rtp_raw_write: Starting RTCP transmission on RTP instan ce '0x7fe17426e7c8' So my main question is, what would cause a sixteen second delay before the codec could be decided? This is Asterisk 13.25.0 on the customer Amazon instance... the "ast01" peer is ours also - one of our external gateways, also running 13.25.0. Thanks, -- Jeff LaCoursiere StratusTalk, Inc. 703 496 4990 x108 815 546 6599 cell