asterisk users - Jul 2018 - G729

20.07.2018 23:35, John Kiniston пишет:
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> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:41 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com 
> <mailto:venefax at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>         ​The community would benefit if a non/licensed version of G729
>         would be included with Asterisk​, since the license expired.
>         The current codec source code posted still requires licensing.
>
>     ​I am sure Digium would not prefer to ​
>     ​acknowledge this, but the phenomenal growth of Asterisk is due to
>     the a​availability of a free G729 codec compiled and distributed
>     free by Arkadi Shislov.
>
> That'd be a surprise to me with the 325 G.729 licenses I have from
Digium.
>
> I'm not a software pirate, I doubt that most telephony providers are 
> either.
Once again- patent is expired, g729 algorithm is now free.
You spent you money to wrong place :-)



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Hmmm, again, this conversation has just faded out. I wondered why no
response from Digium?

So I found this discussion -
https://community.asterisk.org/t/why-does-g729-still-require-licensing/71920/8
- seems very clear that G729 is patent free, but still no response from
Digium.

Also, the link to the "definitely royalty free" version was removed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there must be a valid reason.

And I'm not at all against Digium making money. But this whole 729 thing is
a mystery without any official feedback...



On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 05:37, Dmitry Melekhov <dm at belkam.com> wrote:
> 20.07.2018 23:35, John Kiniston пишет:
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>
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:41 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com>
wrote:
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>> ​The community would benefit if a non/licensed version of G729 would be
>>> included with Asterisk​, since the license expired. The current
codec
>>> source code posted still requires licensing.
>>>
>> ​I am sure Digium would not prefer to ​
>>
>> ​acknowledge this, but the phenomenal growth of Asterisk is due to the
>> a​availability of a free G729 codec compiled and distributed free by
Arkadi
>> Shislov.
>>
>> That'd be a surprise to me with the 325 G.729 licenses I have from
Digium.
>
> I'm not a software pirate, I doubt that most telephony providers are
> either.
>
>
> Once again- patent is expired, g729 algorithm is now free.
> You spent you money to wrong place :-)
>
>
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>>> And I'm not at all against Digium making money. But this whole
729 thing is a mystery without any official feedback...
Not an official statement from Digium, but at the top of that thread, it says it
all:


"david551
Sep '17

It still need copyright licensing.

You will need to find an open source implementation that is not based on code
with commercial use restrictions. The allegedly open source implementation that
was around whilst the patent was live actually had a void licence, because the
purported licence was GPL, but it contained code identified by its upstream
supplier as not for commercial use, invalidating the GPL.

If you want a royalty free G.729, you need to write it yourself, form the
specification, not from the existing sample code."

Doug