Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a
PBX with client APPs.
In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we
have following candidates:
A: Open source
1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest
history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the
PJSIP stack)
2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people
recommended it to us)
B: Commercial
1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now
acquired by a HongKong company now
2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It
also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free.
My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free,
but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to
whom the business PBX has better support, and the
performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team
all are new to VoIP/PBX.
We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions:
1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?
2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by
FreeSwicth) ?
3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?
4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support Windows
?
Thanks in advance .
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I prefer Asterisk for my projects. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Speed Boy <speedboy2889 at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a > PBX with client APPs. > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we > have following candidates: > > A: Open source > > 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest > history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the > PJSIP stack) > 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people > recommended it to us) > > > B: Commercial > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now > acquired by a HongKong company now > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free. > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, but > our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to whom > the business PBX has better support, and the performance is > good, and easy to use - considering our team all are new to VoIP/PBX. >Hire a team with knowledge about VOIP, without your prefer if you use Asterisk or whatever you want You will win a brand new full responsibility with VOIP. The learning process is long and hard. You will find a lot of problems like NAT, intrusions. Consider learn before you pain this.> > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions: > > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ? >Yes.> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by > FreeSwicth) ? >did you google about this?> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk? >You need some skills but today is really simple.> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support > Windows ? > > The latest stable release.> Thanks in advance . > > Best regards.>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20170417/5b4fa97c/attachment.html>
Hi Speed Boy. I agree with Emiliano Vazquez too. Additionally, you and your team must think others points before choose Asterisk: * Asterisk is build to work on Linux. So your team needs some skills like setting up a basic Linux server (Debian, Centos, etc), donwload software from Internet, compile and install software manually. * Your team must know how to configure Linux networking. And solve NAT issue if apply. Basic network protocols like UDP, SIP and SDP/RDP are welcome. * If Asterisk needs interact with external world via VOIP provider, then you must know how to configure SIP or IAX2 trunks. If you have analog (like FXO) or digitals lines (like ISDN or similar), then you need ti know how to install and configure hardware on the Linux server like telephony cards (PCI-e or PCI) or configure VOIP gateways. * Security: How to install and configure a basic firewall (using iptables), o Fail2Ban. And best practices in Asterisk about this topics. Cheers El 17 abr. 2017 13:03, "Emiliano Vazquez" <emilianovazquez at gmail.com> escribi?:> I prefer Asterisk for my projects. > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Speed Boy <speedboy2889 at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a >> PBX with client APPs. >> In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we >> have following candidates: >> >> A: Open source >> >> 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest >> history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the >> PJSIP stack) >> 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people >> recommended it to us) >> >> >> B: Commercial >> >> 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now >> acquired by a HongKong company now >> 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It >> also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free. >> >> My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, but >> our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to whom >> the business PBX has better support, and the performance is >> good, and easy to use - considering our team all are new to VoIP/PBX. >> > > Hire a team with knowledge about VOIP, without your prefer if you use > Asterisk or whatever you want > You will win a brand new full responsibility with VOIP. The learning > process is long and hard. You will find a lot of problems like NAT, > intrusions. Consider learn before you pain this. > > > >> >> We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions: >> >> 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ? >> > > Yes. > > >> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by >> FreeSwicth) ? >> > did you google about this? > > > > >> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk? >> > You need some skills but today is really simple. > > > >> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support >> Windows ? >> >> The latest stable release. > > > > >> Thanks in advance . >> >> Best regards. > > >> > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk. > org/ > > New to Asterisk? Start here: > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20170417/db25d9c6/attachment.html>
On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote:> Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a > PBX with client APPs. > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we > have following candidates: > > A: Open source > > 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest > history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the > PJSIP stack) > 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people > recommended it to us) > > > B: Commercial > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now > acquired by a HongKong company now > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free. > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to > whom the business PBX has better support, and the > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team > all are new to VoIP/PBX.Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open Source solution breaks, who can you call?" The answer is, "Any sufficiently-competent programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces". Whereas if you spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only *one* place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to fix your problem. On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification Rights (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except distribute copies"), a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all. But since the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money from you and maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly desirable in the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life.> We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions: > > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ?Yes.> 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by > FreeSwicth) ?Not sure about this. We're still using the original chan_sip driver.> 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk?It's about as easy as compiling anything from Source Code. Harder than LAME MP3 encoder, but easier than the Linux kernel. If you altered `monop` from the BSDgames package to make the streets match your local edition of the game, you will have no problem whatsoever with building Asterisk. If you understand the process of what you are doing -- basically, setting up an automated process that will examine your server hardware and software configuration (configure), choosing which parts of Asterisk you want to include (make menuselect), compiling the selected human-readable Source Code into binary code that the computer can understand natively (make) and then moving the compiled binary code and configuration files from the Source Code folder to where the computer is expecting for them to be (make install) then you should not have too many problems. It is always preferrable to compile your own Asterisk to fit your hardware and include just the bits you want, rather than rely on anyone else's pre-compiled package.> 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended?The latest one.> And does Asterisk support Windows > ?You can certainly use Windows softphones to talk to Asterisk, but Asterisk itself requires a non-toy underlying operating system. Ubuntu and CentOS are the best-supported Linux distributions. Asterisk has also been seen working, to greater or lesser extents, on Solaris and the BSDs. But Linux was the original development environment (although one of the two original projects that ended up merging and becoming Asterisk, many years ago, was originally developed on FreeBSD), and is what most Asterisk telephonistas know. Any hardware which is capable of running Windows can, of course, run Linux; and usually better. -- JM or AJS Note: Originating address only accepts e-mail from list! If replying off- list, change address to asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk .
On 18 April 2017 at 09:40, J Montoya or A J Stiles <asterisk_list at earthshod.co.uk> wrote:> > It is always preferrable to compile your own Asterisk to fit your hardware and > include just the bits you want, rather than rely on anyone else's pre-compiled > package.Feel free to take a look at https://github.com/lardconcepts/asterisk-digitalocean-voipfone-config/blob/master/Asterisk-14-on-Ubuntu.md Ignore the bit about Voipfone and just skip to the "Install Asterisk" bit. I've used this same script with Asterisk 12,13 and 14 on Ubuntu 15,16 and 17 so this should work! Let me know how you get on. And if anyone spots anything wrong on there, let me know!
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:57:27PM +0800, Speed Boy wrote:> Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a > PBX with client APPs. > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we > have following candidates: > > A: Open source > > 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest > history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the > PJSIP stack) > 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people > recommended it to us) > > > B: Commercial > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now > acquired by a HongKong company now > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free. > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to > whom the business PBX has better support, and the > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team > all are new to VoIP/PBX.I answered elsewhere[1]. I'll just note one important point from my reply: Asterisk and FreeSwitch are not PBXs. They are telephony servers. One application you can build using them is a PBX. You can either program it yourself or use an existing one (e.g.: FreePBX for Asterisk). It's not clear from your question which of the two you need. To me personally the real advantage of open source is not the cost. It is the ability to tweak, and the control you retain. Right now you are new to VoIP. But that will soon change. [1] http://lists.pjsip.org/pipermail/pjsip_lists.pjsip.org/2017-April/019929.html -- Tzafrir Cohen +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com
The solution you choose should be based on many factors which should include your business requirements, team's experience, your budget, growth expectations and more. You can choose Asterisk or Freeswitch as a platform and start building on that - but it is not simple and being new to VoIP you are likely to make mistakes. The "do-it-yourself" approach will some money initially, but will be the most expensive option long term - as you will be denying the economy of scale. Bringing a "smart programmer" won't help much as you will also create a "lock-in". In fact, this could be worse than a dependency created when you use a commercial or a known open source solution as while you would still be able to get help from the community for the "base" part of your pbx, your custom part will be much harder to deal with. Our company started building Asterisk based PBX in 2002 and Multi Tenant PBX in 2005 - we do this as our core business and are still finding areas for improvement :). As your experience with VoIP is minimal I would side with your CTO - you should find a solution high enough in the stack to avoid the complexity of building it all yourself. Good luck, Alex -- Alex Epshteyn email: alex at thirdlane.com web: www.thirdlane.com phone +1 415.261.6601 ----- Original Message -----> From: "J Montoya or A J Stiles" <asterisk_list at earthshod.co.uk> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 1:40:47 AM > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PBX selection > > On Monday 17 Apr 2017, Speed Boy wrote: > > Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a > > PBX with client APPs. > > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we > > have following candidates: > > > > A: Open source > > > > 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest > > history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using > > the > > PJSIP stack) > > 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people > > recommended it to us) > > > > > > B: Commercial > > > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now > > acquired by a HongKong company now > > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It > > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free. > > > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, > > but our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to > > whom the business PBX has better support, and the > > performance is good, and easy to use - considering our team > > all are new to VoIP/PBX. > > Proponents of proprietary solutions always like to say "If an Open > Source > solution breaks, who can you call?" The answer is, "Any > sufficiently-competent > programmer -- it may be broken, but we have all the pieces". Whereas > if you > spend money on proprietary software and it breaks, then there is only > *one* > place you can call -- and you'd better hope they are interested to > fix your > problem. > > On the other hand, if you could get full Source Code and Modification > Rights > (basically, "everything we could do with a GPL program except > distribute > copies"), a proprietary solution might not be so bad after all. But > since > the goal of most proprietary software vendors is to extract money > from you and > maintaining you in a state of perpetual helplessness is highly > desirable in > the course of this, do not expect to get such a deal in real life. > > > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions: > > > > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ? > > Yes. > > > 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, > > sofia(using by > > FreeSwicth) ? > > Not sure about this. We're still using the original chan_sip driver. > > > 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk? > > It's about as easy as compiling anything from Source Code. Harder > than LAME > MP3 encoder, but easier than the Linux kernel. If you altered > `monop` from > the BSDgames package to make the streets match your local edition of > the game, > you will have no problem whatsoever with building Asterisk. > > If you understand the process of what you are doing -- basically, > setting up > an automated process that will examine your server hardware and > software > configuration (configure), choosing which parts of Asterisk you > want to > include (make menuselect), compiling the selected human-readable > Source Code > into binary code that the computer can understand natively (make) > and then > moving the compiled binary code and configuration files from the > Source Code > folder to where the computer is expecting for them to be (make > install) then > you should not have too many problems. > > It is always preferrable to compile your own Asterisk to fit your > hardware and > include just the bits you want, rather than rely on anyone else's > pre-compiled > package. > > > 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? > > The latest one. > > > And does Asterisk support Windows > > ? > > You can certainly use Windows softphones to talk to Asterisk, but > Asterisk > itself requires a non-toy underlying operating system. Ubuntu and > CentOS are > the best-supported Linux distributions. Asterisk has also been seen > working, > to greater or lesser extents, on Solaris and the BSDs. But Linux was > the > original development environment (although one of the two original > projects > that ended up merging and becoming Asterisk, many years ago, was > originally > developed on FreeBSD), and is what most Asterisk telephonistas know. > > Any hardware which is capable of running Windows can, of course, run > Linux; > and usually better. > > -- > JM or AJS > > Note: Originating address only accepts e-mail from list! If > replying off- > list, change address to asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk . > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: > https://community.asterisk.org/ > > New to Asterisk? Start here: > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Hi all, Finally we make decision that go with PortSIP, the reasons are below: 1. Support the easy cluster deployment for handle large concurrent calls and provide 2. All REST API(this is very important to us for integrate the PBX with our current system), and also offer the rebrand app for free. 3. The multi-tenant arch. Thanks all for your suggestions, we have learned a lot of ! BR On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Speed Boy <speedboy2889 at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi all, I'm new to VoIP, now we have a project that needs a > PBX with client APPs. > In our team we have argument for choosing PBX. By so far, we > have following candidates: > > A: Open source > > 1) Asterisk PBX (http://www.asterisk.org) (with longest > history that almost every one knows it, now the last version using the > PJSIP stack) > 2) FreeSwitch (http://www.freeswitch.org) (A lot people > recommended it to us) > > > B: Commercial > > 1) Vodia PBX (http://www.vodia.com). It comes from SNOM, now > acquired by a HongKong company now > 2) PortSIP PBX (http://www.portsip.com/portsip-pbx). It > also includes VoIP SDK, WebRTC and offer rebranding app for free. > > My boss prefers the Open Source PBX since they are free, but > our CTO prefers the commercial editions, according to whom > the business PBX has better support, and the performance > is good, and easy to use - considering our team all are new to VoIP/PBX. > > We have did some searching of Asterisk, here are my questions: > > 1. Does the last Asterisk using PJSIP stack ? > 2. Does there has the comparison of PJSIP and reSIProcate, sofia(using by > FreeSwicth) ? > 3. Is it easy to compile and setup Asterisk? > 4. Which Asterisk version is recommended? And does Asterisk support > Windows ? > > Thanks in advance . > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > Check out the new Asterisk community forum at: https://community.asterisk. > org/ > > New to Asterisk? Start here: > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+Started > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20170421/d4a54f94/attachment.html>