Mitul Limbani
2016-Apr-08 03:41 UTC
[asterisk-users] Recommendations for free virtual server tech and Asterisk?
If you want to use dahdi dummy driver inside asterisk for timer then this is possible with openvz based container virtualization. We have tested vicidial in this mode for 5-10 agents and it worked well. Mitul Limbani On Apr 8, 2016 8:52 AM, "Pete Mundy" <pete at fiberphone.co.nz> wrote:> List, > > Might as well throw my hat in the ring! > > I can't say it's the 'best' way to do it, but I've been running Asterisk > VMs inside the free 'VirtualBox' software for many years with nill issues > (well, nill related to the hypervisor environment itself anyway!). > > https://www.virtualbox.org > > Pete > > On 8/04/2016, at 2:09 pm, Carlos Rojas <crt.rojas at gmail.com> wrote: > > I have tried with xen and kvm both are working fine. > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Loic Chabert <loic.chabert at voxity.fr> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Work well with kvm and centos 7. >> Some ajustements has to be made with systemd. >> >> I'm using it in production since 1.5 year now, no issue to report. >> >> Regards. >> Le 6 avr. 2016 21:13, "Yves" <ybaesa at dm2it.com> a ?crit : >> >> >> Le 06/04/2016 18:12, Markos Vakondios a ?crit : >> >> Good evening, >> >> My English is limited but if I can help. >> >> We install Asterisk Version 13.1 on VmWare with Debian 8.2, no >> problem since June 2015, currently I have tested on Unbutu 14.04 but problem >> with network-manager (problem of stability with Asterisk 1.8.32 and >> difficulty with routing network-manager). >> >> I also installed Asterisk on KVM (Debian 8.2) no problem (but not test >> with dahdi) without particular problem. >> >> here is my little opinion >> >> Hello everyone >> >> Proxmox and KVM on Ubuntu >> >> On Wednesday, 6 April 2016, Ryan, Travis < <RyanT at oscarwinski.com> >> RyanT at oscarwinski.com> wrote: >> >>> What is the best virtual server tech (and most stable, etc) to use for a >>> asterisk virtual hosting environment? >>> >>> >>> I have a client that wants to do virtual hosting of Asterisk (only SIP >>> or IAX, no PRI, etc) and I?m wondering if Xen or something else would be >>> best? We?d like to stay away from the costs of VMWare if possible. >>> >>> >> > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20160408/aaa1aabf/attachment.html>
Ikka Tirtawidjaja
2016-Apr-09 12:49 UTC
[asterisk-users] Recommendations for free virtual server tech and Asterisk?
Please dont use OpenVZ with asterisk. My office once told me to make asterisk PBX with OpenVZ on Proxmox (I forget about the version). It run well when just < 20 SIP user register. It supposed to registered about 400 sip user But, when arround 50-60 SIP user registered to that server, the problem showed. There were lagged SIP registration (Sip user were unregister and register it self, with more then 3000ms lagged time) Calls cannot be made (incoming & outgoing), or dropped off. Although at the end all main server (proxmox) resource was use for that OpenVZ server (main server was xeon intel with 24 core), it doesnt help at all. It was terrible. Later on, i found the article that say that OpenVZ is the most unrecomended for Asterisk server, and XEN is the best one. (but I never use Xen, just go back to non virtual server for now) On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Mitul Limbani <mitul at enterux.in> wrote:> If you want to use dahdi dummy driver inside asterisk for timer then this > is possible with openvz based container virtualization. > > We have tested vicidial in this mode for 5-10 agents and it worked well. > > Mitul Limbani > On Apr 8, 2016 8:52 AM, "Pete Mundy" <pete at fiberphone.co.nz> wrote: > >> List, >> >> Might as well throw my hat in the ring! >> >> I can't say it's the 'best' way to do it, but I've been running Asterisk >> VMs inside the free 'VirtualBox' software for many years with nill issues >> (well, nill related to the hypervisor environment itself anyway!). >> >> https://www.virtualbox.org >> >> Pete >> >> On 8/04/2016, at 2:09 pm, Carlos Rojas <crt.rojas at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have tried with xen and kvm both are working fine. >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Loic Chabert <loic.chabert at voxity.fr> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Work well with kvm and centos 7. >>> Some ajustements has to be made with systemd. >>> >>> I'm using it in production since 1.5 year now, no issue to report. >>> >>> Regards. >>> Le 6 avr. 2016 21:13, "Yves" <ybaesa at dm2it.com> a ?crit : >>> >>> >>> Le 06/04/2016 18:12, Markos Vakondios a ?crit : >>> >>> Good evening, >>> >>> My English is limited but if I can help. >>> >>> We install Asterisk Version 13.1 on VmWare with Debian 8.2, no >>> problem since June 2015, currently I have tested on Unbutu 14.04 but problem >>> with network-manager (problem of stability with Asterisk 1.8.32 and >>> difficulty with routing network-manager). >>> >>> I also installed Asterisk on KVM (Debian 8.2) no problem (but not test >>> with dahdi) without particular problem. >>> >>> here is my little opinion >>> >>> Hello everyone >>> >>> Proxmox and KVM on Ubuntu >>> >>> On Wednesday, 6 April 2016, Ryan, Travis < <RyanT at oscarwinski.com> >>> RyanT at oscarwinski.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What is the best virtual server tech (and most stable, etc) to use for >>>> a asterisk virtual hosting environment? >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a client that wants to do virtual hosting of Asterisk (only SIP >>>> or IAX, no PRI, etc) and I?m wondering if Xen or something else would be >>>> best? We?d like to stay away from the costs of VMWare if possible. >>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20160409/847f46e6/attachment.html>
Ikka Tirtawidjaja
2016-Apr-09 13:13 UTC
[asterisk-users] Recommendations for free virtual server tech and Asterisk?
https://sysadminman.net/blog/2011/asterisk-virtualization-openvz-or-vmware-3004 OpenVZ provides operating system-level virtualization where the underlying hardware runs a kernel that is shared by all of the virtual machines. Where OpenVZ gets a bad name is that it?s very easy to provision many more VPSs on a physical server than that server can really handle. This means lots of virtual machines all trying to use the CPU, ram, network etc on the underlying server, resulting in bottlenecks. This might not be a problem on a webserver. If a web server takes half a second longer to display a web page because the server is overloaded then maybe nobody will notice. However, if your VOIP packets are delayed for half a second then you will definitely notice! Probably the most crucial fact about running Asterisk on a VPS though is who you are sharing the underlying hardware with, and how well the server is managed. Even if there are only a few other virtual servers on that server and they are allowed to abuse the resources available then you will likely get a bad VOIP experience. This can definitely be the case where Asterisk is installed on a general purpose VPS. On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Ikka Tirtawidjaja <ikka.tirta at gmail.com> wrote:> Please dont use OpenVZ with asterisk. > My office once told me to make asterisk PBX with OpenVZ on Proxmox (I > forget about the version). > It run well when just < 20 SIP user register. It supposed to registered > about 400 sip user > But, when arround 50-60 SIP user registered to that server, the problem > showed. > > There were lagged SIP registration (Sip user were unregister and register > it self, with more then 3000ms lagged time) > Calls cannot be made (incoming & outgoing), or dropped off. > Although at the end all main server (proxmox) resource was use for that > OpenVZ server (main server was xeon intel with 24 core), it doesnt help at > all. > It was terrible. > > Later on, i found the article that say that OpenVZ is the most > unrecomended for Asterisk server, and XEN is the best one. (but I never use > Xen, just go back to non virtual server for now) > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Mitul Limbani <mitul at enterux.in> wrote: > >> If you want to use dahdi dummy driver inside asterisk for timer then this >> is possible with openvz based container virtualization. >> >> We have tested vicidial in this mode for 5-10 agents and it worked well. >> >> Mitul Limbani >> On Apr 8, 2016 8:52 AM, "Pete Mundy" <pete at fiberphone.co.nz> wrote: >> >>> List, >>> >>> Might as well throw my hat in the ring! >>> >>> I can't say it's the 'best' way to do it, but I've been running Asterisk >>> VMs inside the free 'VirtualBox' software for many years with nill issues >>> (well, nill related to the hypervisor environment itself anyway!). >>> >>> https://www.virtualbox.org >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> On 8/04/2016, at 2:09 pm, Carlos Rojas <crt.rojas at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have tried with xen and kvm both are working fine. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Loic Chabert <loic.chabert at voxity.fr> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Work well with kvm and centos 7. >>>> Some ajustements has to be made with systemd. >>>> >>>> I'm using it in production since 1.5 year now, no issue to report. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> Le 6 avr. 2016 21:13, "Yves" <ybaesa at dm2it.com> a ?crit : >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 06/04/2016 18:12, Markos Vakondios a ?crit : >>>> >>>> Good evening, >>>> >>>> My English is limited but if I can help. >>>> >>>> We install Asterisk Version 13.1 on VmWare with Debian 8.2, no >>>> problem since June 2015, currently I have tested on Unbutu 14.04 but problem >>>> with network-manager (problem of stability with Asterisk 1.8.32 and >>>> difficulty with routing network-manager). >>>> >>>> I also installed Asterisk on KVM (Debian 8.2) no problem (but not test >>>> with dahdi) without particular problem. >>>> >>>> here is my little opinion >>>> >>>> Hello everyone >>>> >>>> Proxmox and KVM on Ubuntu >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 6 April 2016, Ryan, Travis < <RyanT at oscarwinski.com> >>>> RyanT at oscarwinski.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What is the best virtual server tech (and most stable, etc) to use for >>>>> a asterisk virtual hosting environment? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a client that wants to do virtual hosting of Asterisk (only SIP >>>>> or IAX, no PRI, etc) and I?m wondering if Xen or something else would be >>>>> best? We?d like to stay away from the costs of VMWare if possible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >>> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >>> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >>> >>> asterisk-users mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >>> >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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