asterisk users - Sep 2009 - Using asterisk as the recording server

Hello team; 
While am aware and active user of astersk monitor function for recording, i
would like to know if i can use asterisk as a pure recording server(like nice or
witness) for some  other PABX's extensions (both inbound, outbound and
internal).

Setup
PSTN---Legacy PABX(with analogy n digital extensions)--- asterisk(record Legacy
PABX extensions.)

Sam 
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On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Research <research at businesstz.com>
wrote:
> Hello team;
> While am aware and active user of astersk monitor function for recording, i
> would like to know if i can use asterisk as a pure recording server(like
> nice or witness) for some other PABX's extensions (both inbound,
outbound
> and internal).
>
> Setup
> PSTN---Legacy PABX(with analogy n digital extensions)--- asterisk(record
> Legacy PABX extensions.)
>
> Sam
>
>
Is there any SIP or other VoIP in the mix?  If so, you should take a look at
OrecX.
http://oreka.sourceforge.net (Open Source)
They also have a paid version.

Sangoma RTP Tap will allow you to record TDM calls, again using OrecX but
minus the VoIP.

http://wiki.sangoma.com/wanpipe-voice-rtp-tap

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I have also seen:

PSTN ---- asterisk ---- legacy

Which also gives you a migration path....

PaulH


Research wrote:
> Hello team;
> While am aware and active user of astersk monitor function for
> recording, i would like to know if i can use asterisk as a pure
> recording server(like nice or witness) for some other PABX's
> extensions (both inbound, outbound and internal).
>
> Setup
> PSTN---Legacy PABX(with analogy n digital extensions)---
> asterisk(record Legacy PABX extensions.)
>
> Sam
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> On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 07:44:07AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
>> <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com>wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:15:12AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
>> <tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:06:39PM -0400, Steve Totaro
wrote:
>> > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Research
>> <research at businesstz.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hello team;
>> > > > > > While am aware and active user of astersk
monitor function for
>> > > > recording, i
>> > > > > > would like to know if i can use asterisk as a
pure recording
>> > > > server(like
>> > > > > > nice or witness) for some other PABX's
extensions (both
>> inbound,
>> > > > outbound
>> > > > > > and internal).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Setup
>> > > > > > PSTN---Legacy PABX(with analogy n digital
extensions)---
>> > > > asterisk(record
>> > > > > > Legacy PABX extensions.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Sam
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > Is there any SIP or other VoIP in the mix?  If so,
you should
>> take a
>> > look
>> > > > at
>> > > > > OrecX.
>> > > > > http://oreka.sourceforge.net (Open Source)
>> > > > > They also have a paid version.
>> > > >
>> > > > Another method to do that is to make the Asterisk
monitor output
>> dummy
>> > > > SIP calls rather than sound files. Oreka/Orex can listen
to those.
>> > > >
>> > > > Looking for volunteers to test that:
>> > > >
>> > > > 
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/tzafrir/monitor-rtp/
>> > > > 
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/tzafrir/monitor-rtp-14/
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/tzafrir/monitor-rtp/configs/monitor.conf.sample
>> > > >
>> > > > This allows recording non-VoIP links, VoIP links where
tapping is
>> not
>> > > > convinient, or more selective recording of VoIP calls.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Is this similar or the same as the portion of my post that
you
>> snipped?
>> >
>> > Different in many ways, which is why I snipped it.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "Sangoma RTP Tap will allow you to record TDM calls,
again using
>> OrecX
>> > but
>> > > minus the VoIP."
>> >
>> > (Actually: recorded calls are sent as RTP streams to the
Orex/Oreka
>> > server)
>> >
>> > This records outside of Asterisk. Thus it lacks information
available
>> in
>> > Asterisk (who really called who). OTOH, it is Asterisk-specific.
>> >
>> > We actually considered implementing something similar to the
Sangoma
>> > interface in our driver but realised that doing it in Asterisk
would
>> > probably be more useful. The overheade seems reasonable.
>> >
>> >
>> Sorry, I fail to see the difference besides Sangoma implemented it in
>> their
>> Wanpipe drivers and you are attempting copy their idea and do it in
>> Asterisk.....
>>
>> Your quote "This allows recording non-VoIP links, VoIP links where
>> tapping
>> is not convenient (edited to fix your spelling mistake), or more
>> selective
>> recording of VoIP calls."
>>
>> Isn't that more or less the same thing I said that you snipped,
"Sangoma
>> RTP
>> Tap will allow you to record TDM calls, again using OrecX but minus the
>> VoIP."
>
> And what if the call does not go through a TDM card? And ore
> importantly: how can you tell who is the caller and who is the callee?
> The rtp-tap interface basically tells you that channel X had a call at
> time Y.
>
> If you control recording through the monitoring interface of Asterisk
> you can start and stop the recording when you need it. You can also
> provide better information aobut the call. But again, it means that this
> is part of Asterisk, and I figure Sangoma has quite a few non-Asterisk
> customers.
>
>>
>> This isn't the biz list, nor the dev list.  Snipping out the
reference
>> of
>> Sangoma being able to do RTP tap and suggesting people use your
>> experimental
>> dev branch doesn't really help users very much.
>
> My message was an explicit call for testers, if you haven't noticed :-)
>
> I snip content that is not relevant to my reply. Whoever reads this list
> already read about the Sangoma interface previously. I had nothing to
> say about it. It was not related to that new branch.
>
> --
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>
I imagine this setup will need those two communicating entities to be part
of the pabx. But support extension 100 of PABX A (legacy) calls 101 on the
same platform. I want asterisk connected to PABX A via E1/T1 to know about
that call and start recording (tap) without bridging or being part of that
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