Anyone have much luck with these on ATA's? I have a few sites that use them succesfully with multi-port Audiocodes boxes, but just connected ten machines to Linksys 2102s and they are very flaky. Using u-law on a 100Mb switched network that is barely utilized, then out a T1 on a Sangoma card. Perhaps there is some tuning on the Linksys or the credit card machine itself? Going to look into reducing the baud rate on the machines, but sadly the bank has them password protected and wants to charge a "reprogramming fee" :( j
A bit of hopefully happy news - the Linksys 2102 has a feature called "modem pass through mode" which can be accessed by prepending *99 to the call. Anyone ever used this? Sounds like that might help with faxing as well... j On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:> > Anyone have much luck with these on ATA's? I have a few sites that use them > succesfully with multi-port Audiocodes boxes, but just connected ten machines > to Linksys 2102s and they are very flaky. Using u-law on a 100Mb switched > network that is barely utilized, then out a T1 on a Sangoma card. > > Perhaps there is some tuning on the Linksys or the credit card machine > itself? Going to look into reducing the baud rate on the machines, but sadly > the bank has them password protected and wants to charge a "reprogramming > fee" :( > > j >
On 7/02/2009 11:54 a.m., Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:> A bit of hopefully happy news - the Linksys 2102 has a feature called > "modem pass through mode" which can be accessed by prepending *99 to the > call. Anyone ever used this? Sounds like that might help with faxing as > well...Not tried, but I can tell you we have hotels using the Xorcom Astribanks with credit card machines passing through with no problems. -- Kind Regards, Matt Riddell Director _______________________________________________ http://www.venturevoip.com (Great new VoIP end to end solution) http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://www.venturevoip.com/newrssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss)
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 17:11, Jeff LaCoursiere <jeff at jeff.net> wrote:> > Anyone have much luck with these on ATA's? I have a few sites that use > them succesfully with multi-port Audiocodes boxes, but just connected ten > machines to Linksys 2102s and they are very flaky. Using u-law on a 100Mb > switched network that is barely utilized, then out a T1 on a Sangoma card. > > Perhaps there is some tuning on the Linksys or the credit card machine > itself? Going to look into reducing the baud rate on the machines, but > sadly the bank has them password protected and wants to charge a > "reprogramming fee" :(They make credit card terminals with Ethernet -- use that instead.
Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jerry Jones wrote: > > >> Most alarm systems around here use bursts of dtmf - not an actual >> modem to communicate with alarm central. >> >> Yes I have seen these have many issues with voip in the path. >> >> > > You mean they communicate with an IVR? Seems like that could be made > solid with the right DTMF options enabled on the ATA. > > FWIW that makes a lot more sense than a modem connection. > > j > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >If you are in the US, ANY life safety system has to be connected to a dedicated copper POTS line. VOIP is NOT ok to use for this. It is in the NFPA. Jonn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20090217/6bfd9e62/attachment.htm
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jonn Taylor wrote:> If you are in the US, ANY life safety system has to be connected to a > dedicated copper POTS line. VOIP is NOT ok to use for this. It is in the > NFPA. >What is the NFPA? Do analog extensions in traditional PBXes count? j
National fire protection association They write the fire codes. http://www.nfpa.org On 2/17/09 1:28 PM, "Jeff LaCoursiere" <jeff at jeff.net> wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jonn Taylor wrote:> If you are in the US, ANY life safety system has to be connected to a > dedicated copper POTS line. VOIP is NOT ok to use for this. It is in the > NFPA. >What is the NFPA? Do analog extensions in traditional PBXes count? j _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20090217/d2e9c1b9/attachment.htm
Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Jonn Taylor wrote: > > >> If you are in the US, ANY life safety system has to be connected to a >> dedicated copper POTS line. VOIP is NOT ok to use for this. It is in the >> NFPA. >> >> > > What is the NFPA? Do analog extensions in traditional PBXes count? >national fire protection association. and the internet connection is one way to solve that since it acts like a dedicated line with constant "yes everything is ok" packets, not just communication during a problem.> j > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >
Really once I read credit card, I got to become interested to know whatis exactly happenning. I am looking to have the possibility to pay to the bank using the VoIP adaptor or IP Telephony, by entering the credit card digits and the password and the amound. I do not know if u can help me in this point, and if I am far from your subject or not. Is there a bank or credit card processor provider that can help to acheive such kind of service? (credit card/visa electron payment through VoIP gateway or Telephone lines)? Regards Bilal --------------------> The ADT alarm going thru VoIP will create a life safety > issue. Hope you planned for that.. > --Don > > > > On 2/17/09 6:31 AM, "Jeff LaCoursiere" > <jeff at jeff.net> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Andrew Joakimsen wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 17:11, Jeff LaCoursiere > <jeff at jeff.net> wrote: > >> > >> Anyone have much luck with these on ATA's? I > have a few sites that use > >> them succesfully with multi-port Audiocodes boxes, > but just connected ten > >> machines to Linksys 2102s and they are very flaky. > Using u-law on a 100Mb > >> switched network that is barely utilized, then out > a T1 on a Sangoma card. > >> > >> Perhaps there is some tuning on the Linksys or the > credit card machine > >> itself? Going to look into reducing the baud rate > on the machines, but > >> sadly the bank has them password protected and > wants to charge a > >> "reprogramming fee" :( > > > > They make credit card terminals with Ethernet -- use > that instead. > > > > The client's processor charges 7c/transaction over IP > (plus normal > charges), so they are quite keen to keep it working the way > it was before > I replaced their PBX ;) > > As a followup, *99 prepended on any Linksys ATA does indeed > make a > difference in modem reliability. Both their CCs and their > ADT alarm > devices now function reliably. I also reduced the CC baud > rate to 300 > baud (!), and it is rock solid now! > > j
And is there a bank accept to give such kind of communication? The user was able to dial his card number and the amount from his phone (or IP Phone registered with Asterisk), and Asterisk communicate with the bank or company credit card provider? How the user will enter $50.25? What about expiration date of the credit card? Regards Bilal ------------------------> > Our creditcard company's small print _insists_ on > a direct analog > > exchange line > > with no other devices in between. > > > > Tim. > > > > Tim Panton - Web/VoIP consultant and implementor > > www.westhawk.co.uk > > > > > You can do it an interface using AGI to comunicate with > equipment or verifone. I did it once
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:50, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:> And is there a bank accept to give such kind of communication? > > The user was able to dial his card number and the amount from his phone (or IP Phone registered with Asterisk), and Asterisk communicate with the bank or company credit card provider? > > How the user will enter $50.25? > What about expiration date of the credit card? >Where there are two solutions: 1) The bank provides the service... you do nothing but call the number they provide. 2) The bank provides some sort of API (authorize.net is common in the United States of America) and you write code (an AGI script) that a) accepts the input via the phone b) communicates with the bank using the API, probably via the internet using some sort of encryption (HTTPS is pretty common) Answers to your questions: 1) Probably just by entering 5025 2) Probably just by entering MMYY (month, month, year, year. e.g.: 1210 = December of 2010) This is rather simple since the format is known. Currency usually has two decimal places and years are again a standard format. If using option 2) above it would be wise to provide a confirmation (user dials 5025 and then a prompt would say "You entered fifty dollars twenty-five cents. Is that correct?", etc.)
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:50:18 -0800 > From: bilmar_gh at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Credit Card processing machines > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com > CC: listas_quijada at hotmail.com > > And is there a bank accept to give such kind of communication? > > The user was able to dial his card number and the amount from his phone (or IP Phone registered with Asterisk), and Asterisk communicate with the bank or company credit card provider?Yes! WEll, no asterisk exactly, we can do an interface to "talk" with verifone by RS232 and send commands> > How the user will enter $50.25? > What about expiration date of the credit card? >You can use *, key, for period and finish the value with # 50*25# the AGI validate the data> Regards > Bilal > >*-------------------------------------------------------* *-Edwin Quijada *-Developer DataBase *-JQ Microsistemas *-809-849-8087 * " Si deseas lograr cosas excepcionales debes de hacer cosas fuera de lo comun" *-------------------------------------------------------* _________________________________________________________________ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20090219/619ab4b5/attachment.htm
Why not Asterisk? And if need to use RS232, then ethernet is not possible? So how u will use AGI with RS232? Regards Bilal --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Edwin Quijada <listas_quijada at hotmail.com> wrote:> From: Edwin Quijada <listas_quijada at hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: Credit Card processing machines > To: bilmar_gh at yahoo.com, "Asterisk Asterisk" <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com> > Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:21 PM > > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:50:18 -0800 > > From: bilmar_gh at yahoo.com > > Subject: Re: Credit Card processing machines > > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com > > CC: listas_quijada at hotmail.com > > > > And is there a bank accept to give such kind of > communication? > > > > The user was able to dial his card number and the > amount from his phone (or IP Phone registered with > Asterisk), and Asterisk communicate with the bank or company > credit card provider? > > > > Yes! > > WEll, no asterisk exactly, we can do an interface to > "talk" with verifone by RS232 and send commands> > > > How the user will enter $50.25? > > What about expiration date of the credit card? > > > > You can use *, key, for period and finish the value with # > > > > 50*25# the AGI validate the data > > > > Regards > > Bilal > > > > > *-------------------------------------------------------* > *-Edwin Quijada > *-Developer DataBase > *-JQ Microsistemas > *-809-849-8087 > * " Si deseas lograr cosas excepcionales debes de > hacer cosas fuera de lo comun" > *-------------------------------------------------------* > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get more from your digital life. Find out how. > http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009, bilal ghayyad wrote:> So how u will use AGI with RS232?While an AGI can "talk" to /dev/ttySx, it would make more sense to write a daemon to manage the conversations and then your AGIs could talk to the daemon over TCP, shared memory, pipes, two cans and some string... Thanks in advance, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Edwards sedwards at sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:25:50 -0800 > From: bilmar_gh at yahoo.com > Subject: RE: Credit Card processing machines > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com; listas_quijada at hotmail.com > > Why not Asterisk? > And if need to use RS232, then ethernet is not possible? So how u will use AGI with RS232? >Yes, you can but I dont know how *-------------------------------------------------------* *-Edwin Quijada *-Developer DataBase *-JQ Microsistemas *-809-849-8087 * " Si deseas lograr cosas excepcionales debes de hacer cosas fuera de lo comun" *-------------------------------------------------------* _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20090219/6dff5b13/attachment.htm