Muhammad Zulqarnain
2008-Jun-13 05:18 UTC
[asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
Dear User! Although this email is intend for asterisk-business list however this might be useful for asterisk-user as well. Global IT Vision is proud to announce the World Cheapest Predictive Dialer. TeleRep Performance Optimizer Predictive Dialer is Hosted Web Based solution for Call Centers (with FREE DNC Scrubbing for US) that works from any where in the world with virtually unlimited agents. It's a prepaid pay as you go service. You just pay for the calls you make as our system allows you to add your own TRUNK so you can make calls to anywhere in the world with your own terminator. Pricing are as low as 0.014c/minute plus you will also save hundreds of $$$ with free DNC Scrubbing by using our hosted service. FEATURES LIST: ? Free DNC Scrubbing for US Call Centers ? Web Based Live Administration ? Distributed Virtual Call Center ? Campaign Management ? Campaign Start/Stop Scheduling ? Multiple Campaigns at a time ? Agent Login from home ? Press 1 for Live Transfer ? Support from 1-1000 users ? No Minimum Commitment ? Pricing as low as 0.014c/minute ? Use Your Own Carrier ? No Dedicated Hardware/Software Required ? Free Phone/Email Support ? Live up-to-minute statistics Before starting TeleRep Performance Optimizer Predictive Dialer Solutions, our team along with Global IT & Telecom Ltd A British Company amassed 7 years of experience building first class, mission-critical voice and Internet applications for large and small corporate clients. Our solution resides in a Tier-1 data center and employs the latest in voice and Internet technology to ensure security, redundancy, and the highest quality of service. Please contact zulqarnain at gitv.pk for more details! Thanks Regards, Muhammad Zulqarnain Email: zulqarnain at gitv.pk MSN: zulqarnain at globalitvision.com http://www.gitv.pk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080612/35eafa08/attachment.htm
Hello, This looks an awful lot like an advertisement for a commercial product, which is only allowed on the biz list. Which you already posted this message to this week. I'm kind of confused. How do you get cheaper than free? Are you paying people to use your dialer? One other thing, it is illegal to scrub leads for a company against the USA FTC DNC lists unless those companies have paid the FTC and registered to have access to those leads, do you verify FTC registration before offering this service? MATT--- On 6/13/08, Muhammad Zulqarnain <mzulqarnain2002 at yahoo.com> wrote:> Dear User! > > Although this email is intend for asterisk-business list however this might > be useful for asterisk-user as well. > > Global IT Vision is proud to announce the World Cheapest Predictive Dialer. > > TeleRep Performance Optimizer Predictive Dialer is Hosted Web Based solution > for Call Centers (with FREE DNC Scrubbing for US) that works from any where > in the world with virtually unlimited agents. It's a prepaid pay as you go > service. You just pay for the calls you make as our system allows you to add > your own TRUNK so you can make calls to anywhere in the world with your own > terminator. Pricing are as low as 0.014c/minute plus you will also save > hundreds of $$$ with free DNC Scrubbing by using our hosted service. > > FEATURES LIST: > ? Free DNC Scrubbing for US Call Centers > ? Web Based Live Administration > ? Distributed Virtual Call Center > ? Campaign Management > ? Campaign Start/Stop Scheduling > ? Multiple Campaigns at a time > ? Agent Login from home > ? Press 1 for Live Transfer > ? Support from 1-1000 users > ? No Minimum Commitment > ? Pricing as low as 0.014c/minute > ? Use Your Own Carrier > ? No Dedicated Hardware/Software Required > ? Free Phone/Email Support > ? Live up-to-minute statistics > > Before starting TeleRep Performance Optimizer Predictive Dialer Solutions, > our team along with Global IT & Telecom Ltd A British Company amassed 7 > years of experience building first class, mission-critical voice and > Internet applications for large and small corporate clients. Our solution > resides in a Tier-1 data center and employs the latest in voice and Internet > technology to ensure security, redundancy, and the highest quality of > service. > > Please contact zulqarnain at gitv.pk for more details! > > Thanks > Regards, > > Muhammad Zulqarnain > Email: zulqarnain at gitv.pk > MSN: zulqarnain at globalitvision.com > http://www.gitv.pk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Muhammad Zulqarnain
2008-Jun-14 04:07 UTC
[asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer!
Hi! First of all I apologize for posting this commercial email on asterisk-user list but it gave me some valuable information which were not notified by any one on asterisk-buzz list. Second I would like to clear the confusion created by my email about FREE DNC Scrubbing. Our Predictive Dialer have capability to filter list of number against the List of National Do Not Call Registry provided by the client itself. So they don't have to buy any additional software from market, like dnclistmanager, Scrub DNC etc. for scrubbing their list before dialing their leads. In this way let me know if even we from developing country like Pakistan are violating US or FTC laws. Some one asked in the list that how It is world most cheapest predictive dialer. We don't pay to people for using our software. TeleRep Performance Optimizer is not a free predictive dialer but the most cheapest Predictive Dialer (just 0.014c per minute, as you use your own carrier to terminate call anywhere in the world, but not only to USA) as compare to other Hosted Dialer available in the market like Callfire and many others available. However, discussion made by several friends including Steve, MATT, Dean are very valuable and I thanks all of you for taking your time on discussing this matter on list. I am looking forward further for your feedback on this matter if still it is out of law. Thanks Regards, Zulqarnain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20080613/ae3aeb1f/attachment.htm
Hello, If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID with just about any carrier. MATT--- On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:> How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway? > For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the callerIDs. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com > > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt Florell > Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer! > > Hello, > > I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I > can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of > world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and > doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not > following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber > and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA. > > If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list > filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some > kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been > fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for > violating these regulations. > > I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA > routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs > such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists. > A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for > USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based > companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead > suppliers. > > MATT--- > > On 6/13/08, Dean Collins <Dean at cognation.net> wrote: > > Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's > > borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast. > > > > It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company > > incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if owned > > as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of the > > USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are > > incorporated under. > > > > I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk' > > people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our > > advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you > > are kidding yourself. > > > > Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be > > virtual in most instances. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dean > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com > > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve > > Totaro > > Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer! > > > > My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction..... > > > > Thanks, > > Steve T > > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
If it shows up as the BTN on the CDRs then technically you should be billed at the highest possible tariff. Whether your provider will do that or not depends what they are charged. In general the provider/s shouldn't use CID as the BTN and therefore you shouldn't be over or under charged. Even in cases where the CID is actually passed along as the BTN, the provider should still keep track of you by circuit ID rather than CID, however when they have to pay their tariffs I am assuming they will be charged based on BTN which they based on CID that you set, which will in turn make them lose money IF they are charged at highest possible tariff. In conclusion, I don't know what you are charged because I haven't seen your bills. I don't know if the providers actually have the capabilities to do BTN different than CID (I am assuming they could), and if they do have the capablity they should actually make sure that the BTN is always set to what it is and not CID. If they don't they should pass on any high tariffs resulting from that to you. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote:> Yeah, but what do you get billed as? I understand if your callerID and the > called party is from within a state, it's interstate routing. If between > states, then it's intrastate, etc > > The billing depends on the callerID you send. > So, if you send a 000-000-0000 clid to a 917 area code, what would the call > be routed/billed as? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro > Sent: June 17, 2008 4:55 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer! > > I can set to anything on my Qwest circuit. All zeros or whatever, > just has to be ten digits. I have seen some that will send less than > ten like a four digit extension number on a misconfigured system. > > Thanks, > Steve T > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> If you have a PRI-T1 in the USA, then you can set outgoing CallerID >> with just about any carrier. >> >> MATT--- >> >> On 6/17/08, Mark Hamilton <mark.h at cage151.com> wrote: >>> How can they even set such 1234567890 callerIDs anyway? >>> For example, our inter/intra state calling depends a lot on the > callerIDs. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com >>> >>> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt > Florell >>> Sent: June 13, 2008 8:20 AM >>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion >>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer! >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am not suggesting that the USA's laws exist outside of the USA, I >>> can imagine the horrible problems that would cause in the rest of >>> world. I wanted to point out that if you are using this service and >>> doing business in the USA that you could face penalties for not >>> following the law. According to the FTC, both companies(the scrubber >>> and the client) are guilty of breaking the laws of the USA. >>> >>> If you are calling the USA and need to use this company's FTC DNC list >>> filtering services then you may have USA-based operations of some >>> kind. In such cases it is important to note that companies have been >>> fined millions of dollars and have been shut down in the USA for >>> violating these regulations. >>> >>> I am well aware of the fact that companies based outside of the USA >>> routinely call-blast the USA with auto-dialers that send out callerIDs >>> such as 1234567890 and do no filtering against the USA FTC DNC lists. >>> A large portion of these companies are doing lead-generation for >>> USA-based companies, and over the years a lot of those USA-based >>> companies have been shut down for the activities of their lead >>> suppliers. >>> >>> MATT--- >>> >>> On 6/13/08, Dean Collins <Dean at cognation.net> wrote: >>> > Yep it's funny how few people on this list realize that the usa's >>> > borders and laws stop 50 miles off the coast. >>> > >>> > It's also surprising how few Americans realize that a company >>> > incorporated internationally (Pakistan in this instance) even if > owned >>> > as a subsidiary of a USA parent doesn't have to follow the laws of > the >>> > USA but actually falls under the jurisdiction of the laws they are >>> > incorporated under. >>> > >>> > I'm not saying this is good or bad, 'm just saying that as 'asterisk' >>> > people we should be smart enough to play the laws that suit us to our >>> > advantage, if you think that the Global 1000 companies don't then you >>> > are kidding yourself. >>> > >>> > Besides we have the advantage in that almost everything we do can be >>> > virtual in most instances. >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > Dean >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com >>> > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve >>> > Totaro >>> > Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 7:06 AM >>> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion >>> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] World Cheapest Predictive Dialer! >>> > >>> > My guess is that they are outside of the FTC's jurisdiction..... >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Steve T >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Matt Florell <astmattf at gmail.com> >>> > wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >