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Dean Collins

2008-May-03 15:27 UTC

[asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - now 220 million users in China

China has surpassed the USA as the No. 1 nation in Internet users.

The number of Chinese on the Internet hit more than 220 million as of
February.
http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0

I wonder how Americans are going to handle this little turn of events.

What is really interesting in the rest of the article it discusses how
the percentage of penetration for china is 17% of it's 1.3 Billion
population versus 71% penetration of the USA's population of 304 million
people.

So with China expected to increase another 13 million users this month
alone (March 2008) to 233 million users how long before there are more
people using the internet in China than the entire population of the USA
(I'm guessing about 7 months so about the end of this year).

Does anyone in the Asterisk community have a good website for getting
accurate voip minutes or some other field of reference for how
successful voip penetration is in the respective countries? Would be
interesting to see what countries are leading Voip implementation
penetration regardless of whether it is Asterisk or Avaya etc etc.

I know everyone freaked when Trixbox was collecting stats but I think it
would be great for someone to write a small 'anonymous collection
module' that an Asterisk sys-admin could download and install on their
asterisk server which uploaded the stats to a community website.

Even if it just collected number of new installations globally this
would be a huge help to people selling asterisk to their customers who
continually ask "I've heard about this Asterisk open source stuff but
how many are there installed globally anyway?"

Regards,

Dean Collins
dean at cognation.net
Cognation Limited
+1-212-203-4357
+61-2-9016-4652 (Sydney indial)

P.S. In case you are wondering Australia has a piddling little 15m users
but this is against a pop of only 20.5m so the Internet penetration is
actually higher than the USA.

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2008-May-04 12:15 UTC

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<html><body><br>The statistics you write of maybe true but
there is a small downside to this.&nbsp; Presently, our website can not be
seen in China and we are hosted by <a
href="http://Godaddy.com">Godaddy.com</a>.&nbsp; The
explanation we receive more than three times is "China is blocking a number
of IP addresses and there is nothing they can do!"&nbsp; This is the
kicker we work with a Federal Organization here in USA who is also hosting at
<a href="http://Godaddy.com">Godaddy.com</a> and their
website can be seen.&nbsp; The only difference is this ogranization is using
a Class A static IP address.&nbsp; <a
href="http://Godaddy.com">Godaddy.com</a> can not guarantee
if changing to a static IP address this situation will change.&nbsp; One
more thing, <a href="http://Godaddy.com">Godaddy.com</a>
can be seen in China because their website is hosted on a separate corporate
server.&nbsp; <br><br>This is not a gripe but a realty and we
are a digium select reseller.&nbsp; There is a consultant in China we work
with and our website is translated in Mandarin.&nbsp; If anyone has a
proposed solution for this we would greatly appreciate the
dialogue.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>
<blockquote webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue;
margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;">
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users
-<br>
now 220 million users in China<br>
From: "Dean Collins" <Dean@cognation.net><br>
Date: Sat, May 03, 2008 11:27 am<br>
To: <<a
href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium">asterisk-users@lists.digium</a>.com><br>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial; color:
black;">China</span></font></st1:country-region><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"> has
surpassed the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place> as the
No. 1 nation in Internet
users.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%
0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial;
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">The
number of Chinese on the Internet hit more than 220 million as of
February.<br> </span></font><font color="blue"
size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><a
href="http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0">http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
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color="blue" size="2" face="Arial"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
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color="blue" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
blue;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I wonder
how Americans are going to handle this little turn of
events.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%
0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">What is
really interesting in the rest of the article it discusses how the percentage of
penetration for china is 17% of it's 1.3 Billion population versus 71%
penetration of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s
population of 304 million
people.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%
0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">So with
China expected to increase another 13 million users this month alone (March
2008) to 233 million users how long before there are more people using the
internet in China than the entire population of the USA (I'm guessing about
7 months so about the end of this
year).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%
0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Does
anyone in the Asterisk community have a good website for getting accurate voip
minutes or some other field of reference for how successful voip penetration is
in the respective countries? Would be interesting to see what countries are
leading Voip implementation penetration regardless of whether it is Asterisk or
Avaya etc etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%
0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I know
everyone freaked when Trixbox was collecting stats but I think it would be great
for someone to write a small &lsquo;anonymous collection module&rsquo;
that an Asterisk sys-admin could download and install on their asterisk server
which uploaded the stats to a community
website.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%
0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial;
-moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white none repeat
scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin:
-moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Even if
it just collected number of new installations globally this would be a huge help
to people selling asterisk to their customers who continually ask
&ldquo;I&rsquo;ve heard about this Asterisk open source stuff but how
many are there installed globally
anyway?&rdquo;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div><font color="black" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div>
<div><font color="black" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial; color:
black;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:
12pt;"><font color="black" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial; color: black;"><br> <br> Regards, <br>
<br> Dean Collins<br> <a
href="mailto:dean@cognation.net" target="_blank"
onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=dean%40cognation.net');;
return false;"><a
href="mailto:dean@cognation.net">dean@cognation.net</a></a><br>
Cognation Limited<br> <st2:dial
w:st="on">+1-212-203-4357</st2:dial><br> <st2:dial
w:st="on">+61-2-9016-4652</st2:dial> (<st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:city
w:st="on">Sydney</st1:city></st1:place>
indial)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font
color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">P.S. In
case you are wondering <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region> has a piddling
little 15m users but this is against a pop of only 20.5m so the Internet
penetration is actually higher than the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><font
color="#666666" size="5"
face="Georgia"><span style="font-size: 15.5pt; font-family:
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2008-May-04 20:58 UTC

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<html><body><br>Thanks Matt!<br><br>
<blockquote webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue;
margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;">
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users
-<br>
now&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp220
million users in China<br>
From: Matt Watson <mwatson@becon.org><br>
Date: Sun, May 04, 2008 11:00 am<br>
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<<a
href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium">asterisk-users@lists.digium</a>.com><br>
<br>
What <a href="http://Godaddy.com">Godaddy.com</a> has told
you is more or less correct.<br>
<br>
Its not their fault that Chinese visitors cannot hit your pages... the internet
is China is highly censored, and quite often they firewall even very large big
name sites like BBC news.  Typically they block sites that have any type discuss
any type of political matters that might be going on in China, or blog sites
where chinese citizens might "speak out".  I'm not saying your
site is one of these, but if they are infact doing it by IP address, its
perfectly possible that your site just happens to be hosted on the same IP (or
even IP block) as a site they decided to firewall - or perhaps a site used to
occupy the same address space as you and they just haven't noticed its no
longer there and un-firewalled it.<br>
<br>
And yes, <a href="http://godaddy.com">godaddy.com</a>
cannot guarentee that if you change IP addresses that the new one will work...
just like they can't guarentee that myself or any visitors to my home will
be able to access your website from my internet connection... i could firewall
IPs from my home just like the chinese government can firewall sites from all of
their citizens.  There is a chance that changing IPs will make it work, but
theres also a chance the new IP will be firewalled too...<br>
<br>
Just google for "Great Firewall of China"<br>
<br>
--<br>
Matt<br>
<br>
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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - now    
220 million users in China<br>
<br>
The statistics you write of maybe true but there is a small downside to this. 
Presently, our website can not be seen in China and we are hosted by
Godaddy.com<<a href="http://Godaddy.com"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://Godaddy.com">http://Godaddy.com</a></a>>.
The explanation we receive more than three times is "China is blocking a
number of IP addresses and there is nothing they can do!"  This is the
kicker we work with a Federal Organization here in USA who is also hosting at
Godaddy.com<<a href="http://Godaddy.com"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://Godaddy.com">http://Godaddy.com</a></a>>
and their website can be seen.  The only difference is this ogranization is
using a Class A static IP address.  Godaddy.com<<a
href="http://Godaddy.com" target="_blank"><a
href="http://Godaddy.com">http://Godaddy.com</a></a>>
can not guarantee if changing to a static IP address this situation will change.
One more thing, Godaddy.com<<a href="http://Godaddy.com"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://Godaddy.com">http://Godaddy.com</a></a>>
can be seen in China because their website is hosted on a separate corporate
server.<br>
<br>
This is not a gripe but a realty and we are a digium select reseller.  There is
a consultant in China we work with and our website is translated in Mandarin. 
If anyone has a proposed solution for this we would greatly appreciate the
dialogue.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users
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now 220 million users in China<br>
From: "Dean Collins" <<a
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Date: Sat, May 03, 2008 11:27 am<br>
To: <<a
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<br>
China has surpassed the USA as the No. 1 nation in Internet users.<br>
<br>
The number of Chinese on the Internet hit more than 220 million as of
February.<br>
<<a href="http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0">http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0</a></a>><a
href="http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0"
target="_blank"><a
href="http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0">http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0</a></a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I wonder how Americans are going to handle this little turn of events.<br>
<br>
What is really interesting in the rest of the article it discusses how the
percentage of penetration for china is 17% of it's 1.3 Billion population
versus 71% penetration of the USA's population of 304 million
people.<br>
<br>
So with China expected to increase another 13 million users this month alone
(March 2008) to 233 million users how long before there are more people using
the internet in China than the entire population of the USA (I'm guessing
about 7 months so about the end of this year).<br>
<br>
Does anyone in the Asterisk community have a good website for getting accurate
voip minutes or some other field of reference for how successful voip
penetration is in the respective countries? Would be interesting to see what
countries are leading Voip implementation penetration regardless of whether it
is Asterisk or Avaya etc etc.<br>
<br>
I know everyone freaked when Trixbox was collecting stats but I think it would
be great for someone to write a small &lsquo;anonymous collection
module&rsquo; that an Asterisk sys-admin could download and install on their
asterisk server which uploaded the stats to a community website.<br>
<br>
Even if it just collected number of new installations globally this would be a
huge help to people selling asterisk to their customers who continually ask
&ldquo;I&rsquo;ve heard about this Asterisk open source stuff but how
many are there installed globally anyway?&rdquo;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dean Collins<br>
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P.S. In case you are wondering Australia has a piddling little 15m users but
this is against a pop of only 20.5m so the Internet penetration is actually
higher than the USA.<br>
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asterisk users - May 2008 - China vaults past USA in Internet users - now 220 million users in China

[asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - now 220 million users in China

[asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - now 220 million users in China

[asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - now 220 million users in China