Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can benefit from. I just need some suggestions on: (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity check) (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. Ritesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070509/97387991/attachment.htm
Regarding (2) - you can either provide a realtime query service supporting web service interface which can be consumed using virtually any programming language and it would be very easy to build an AGI script around it. the second option would be to periodically update a flat file (csv) and provide ftp access - this way you won't have to sustain the load of the realtime queries as the demand grows and the numbers can be provisioned into PBX which doesn't have public Internet access. personally I don't have a use for such a DB, but I'm willing to help on setting it up for the community if needed. Joss. On 5/9/07, Ritesh Agrawal <helloritesh@gmail.com> wrote:> > Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? > Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? > > We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) > If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can > benefit from. > > I just need some suggestions on: > (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity > check) > (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. > > Ritesh > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com <http://easynews.com/>-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070509/9bdb236d/attachment.htm
Hi Ritesh -> Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? > Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? > > We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) > If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can > benefit from. > > I just need some suggestions on: > (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity > check) > (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase.Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah
Ritesh Agrawal wrote:> Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? > Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? > > We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) > If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone > can benefit from. > > I just need some suggestions on: > (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to > sanity check) > (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. > > Ritesh > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersBe careful what you ask for. I run what's called a "brute forcer" list (www.infiltrated.net/bforcers) and I started off with a few people helping me. But found it was easier for me to get it to work the way I needed it to, updated the way I needed it to be, and managed by myself. It gets difficult depending on what you're doing and it will be a thankless effort. Good luck though if you need a mirror or something let me know. -- ===================================================J. Oquendo http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1383A743 echo infiltrated.net|sed 's/^/sil@/g' "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5157 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070509/93d38c08/smime.bin
Things that will make your idea difficult. Although telemarketers are supposed to send their CallerID, many if not most, I see "Unkown". I believe this is illegal but I see it many times a day. I worked at a company with over one thousand toll free numbers, simply changing outbound CallerID to another number defeats your scripts. I could also change the actual DNIS of these calls, so a telemarketer could easily defeat your mechanism and still be legal. I could also send any arbitrary ten digit CallerID and DNIS which looks better to the callee than "Unknown" but cannot be associated to a particular telemarketer. Thanks, Steve Totaro http://www.asteriskhelpdesk.com/ KB3OPB _____ From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ritesh Agrawal Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:38 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers?? Thanks everyone for the responses, encouragement and offers to help. I will get started on this shortly and circle back with you guys. If someone has a starter list, it would help jump start the efforts/motivation :-) Ritesh On 5/9/07, Noah Miller <noahisaacmiller@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Ritesh -> Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? > Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? > > We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) > If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyonecan> benefit from. > > I just need some suggestions on: > (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule tosanity> check) > (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase.Wow, that's a generous offer. I like the idea of a blacklist for telemarketers. It's bound to be more effective than an RBL for spammers! One thing to note: this may end up being a non-US database. Here in the US, I've experienced great success with the www.donotcall.gov service. If you're in the US and haven't signed up for this service, I'd highly recommend it. Of course, there may be non-telemarketer calls that it would be nice to be able to block. - Noah _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070510/a01fc6f4/attachment.htm
It sounds pretty interesting to do. On a technical point of view, I believe a simple HTTP interface would be nice, and additionally a nightly rsync for high load sites who wish to run a local cache. About how to set up a community blacklist for telephone numbers and its legal implications, if any, I do not have much experience. Surely telemarketers would not love it. :-) l. In data Wed, 09 May 2007 19:36:22 +0200, Ritesh Agrawal <helloritesh@gmail.com> ha scritto:> Does anyone know if there is a known list of telemarketers? > Something like http://whocalled.us/ with an easier access? > > We could all benefit if there was such a thing :-) > If there is enough interest, I could put up a database that everyone can > benefit from. > > I just need some suggestions on: > (1) Adding new numbers based on community responses (some rule to sanity > check) > (2) Method that everyone would prefer to access the dbase. > > Ritesh-- Home of QueueMetrics - http://queuemetrics.com
Suspect it is however I get one spoof a day on average. Most I recognize as invalid dialplan numbers though There's a thought, a incoming dialplan validity checker... If a number can't pass a basic nxx-nxx-xxxx, or is from an unassigned npa, auto zap it That said, incoming skype are often 000-012-3456 D Dave Bour Desktop Solution Center 905.381.0077 dcbour@desktopsolutioncenter.ca For those who just want it to work... Giving you complete IT peace of mind. (Sent via Blackberry - hence message may be shorter than my usual verbose responses) PIN 4cc364db (as of March 24, 2007) ----- Original Message ----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com <asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com> To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Sat May 12 20:54:08 2007 Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] List of telemarketers??> 3. a list of bogus entries..so when you look at it, you know it's a > fake phone number...one that recently came in that got me thinking > this was 407 111 1111.I don't know much about the legal position over the other side of the pond, but I'm pretty sure that in the UK caller ID spoofing is illegal. There's nothing to stop you withholding your CLI of course, but to deliberately fake someone else's CLI (whether it exists or otherwise) pushes you over the line. Is the same not the case in the US? Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it/chris.html This email is made from 100% recycled electrons _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070512/b442b2e9/attachment.htm