I saw this and laughed, the toilet server, AKA the voice mail server is running Asterisk..... http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/011907-mit-your-take.html?page=1 -- --- Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) lathama@lathama.com - lathama@gmail.com If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email! Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better. ---