Dean Collins
2006-Sep-08 07:22 UTC
[asterisk-users] FW: Peter Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!
I'm sending this to the asterisk list - consciously knowing it will piss some people off but this is the most important business issue of the day for anyone doing business in or with a US company. Oh and before anyone on this list thinks of calling this OT - how about Mark Spencer being arrested while travelling in a country like India or the Middle East that has banned VOIP services (which is still illegal because they cant tax it of course). I don't know what you are going to be able to do with this information but this has to be discussed as it affect the future of international commerce when dealing with the USA. Best intentions, Dean ________________________________ From: Dean Collins Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Peter Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!! This is bullshit. I don't know how to effectively express my outrage over this action by the US government. Check out these links for background info; www.nytimes.com <http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/technology/08gamble.html?_r=1&oref=sl ogin> money.cnn.com <http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/08/news/international/bc.leisure.sportingb et.reut/?postversion=2006090808> today.reuters.co.uk <http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&stor yID=2006-09-07T160138Z_01_N07242747_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-LEISURE-SPORTINGB ET-DICKS.XML> www.businessweek.com <http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8K02SM85.htm?sub=apn_euro _up&chan=gb> So basically we have a UK citizen, operating a UK business (sportingbetplc.com board) <http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131 b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246> who the moment he steps foot into the USA is arrested, not for crimes he committed but for crimes committted by US citizens. Oh and arrested under ambiguous Louisiana law, that defines all interstate gaming as illegal. I cant wait for the chairman of the NY Times to be arrested on a visit to China because chinese citizens were reading copies of the NY Times on the internet. Oh and as for visiting 'unfriendly' countries, how about if Castro started shooting american tourists he found in Cuba for 'crimes of treason' in carrying US dollars in their wallets? This is insane America. When are you going to wake up and begin to be a good 'world citizen'? You cant just arrest people for 'crimes against the state' that dont even occur in your country........isn't that what terrorists do? Impose their will against the world at large. I keep hoping I will wake up and the insanity will end? it's like a bad dream. It's getting hard to tell who is the bad guys anymore. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/peter-dicks-chairman-of-spor tingbet.html Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060908/dc4a590b/attachment.htm
Dean Collins
2006-Sep-08 09:08 UTC
[asterisk-users] FW: Peter Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!!
Did this email go through the first time or is the email down? I've been reading about this online everywhere this morning and I haven't seen it come back on the asterisk server. Cheers, Dean ________________________________ From: Dean Collins Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 10:22 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: FW: Peter Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!! I'm sending this to the asterisk list - consciously knowing it will piss some people off but this is the most important business issue of the day for anyone doing business in or with a US company. Oh and before anyone on this list thinks of calling this OT - how about Mark Spencer being arrested while travelling in a country like India or the Middle East that has banned VOIP services (which is still illegal because they cant tax it of course). I don't know what you are going to be able to do with this information but this has to be discussed as it affect the future of international commerce when dealing with the USA. Best intentions, Dean ________________________________ From: Dean Collins Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Peter Dicks Chairman of Sportingbet PLC is arrested at JFK!! This is bullshit. I don't know how to effectively express my outrage over this action by the US government. Check out these links for background info; www.nytimes.com <http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/technology/08gamble.html?_r=1&oref=sl ogin> money.cnn.com <http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/08/news/international/bc.leisure.sportingb et.reut/?postversion=2006090808> today.reuters.co.uk <http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&stor yID=2006-09-07T160138Z_01_N07242747_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-LEISURE-SPORTINGB ET-DICKS.XML> www.businessweek.com <http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8K02SM85.htm?sub=apn_euro _up&chan=gb> So basically we have a UK citizen, operating a UK business (sportingbetplc.com board) <http://www.sportingbetplc.com/pages/15/Our+Board.stm?PHPSESSID=15ba3131 b6035fc855dabdde5c19b246> who the moment he steps foot into the USA is arrested, not for crimes he committed but for crimes committted by US citizens. Oh and arrested under ambiguous Louisiana law, that defines all interstate gaming as illegal. I cant wait for the chairman of the NY Times to be arrested on a visit to China because chinese citizens were reading copies of the NY Times on the internet. Oh and as for visiting 'unfriendly' countries, how about if Castro started shooting american tourists he found in Cuba for 'crimes of treason' in carrying US dollars in their wallets? This is insane America. When are you going to wake up and begin to be a good 'world citizen'? You cant just arrest people for 'crimes against the state' that dont even occur in your country........isn't that what terrorists do? Impose their will against the world at large. I keep hoping I will wake up and the insanity will end? it's like a bad dream. It's getting hard to tell who is the bad guys anymore. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/09/peter-dicks-chairman-of-spor tingbet.html Dean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060908/4edebab0/attachment.htm