I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be implementing Asterisk? These occur to me: CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. ISP's wishing to provide voice services. Any others?
On Jul 20, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Douglas Garstang wrote:> I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be > implementing Asterisk? > > These occur to me: > > CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. > ISP's wishing to provide voice services. > > Any others? >Schools and fortune 500 companies.
Any company. There is no typical company in my experience. I have worked with non-profits, political campaigns, magazine publishers, telemarketing call center companies, medical supplies companies and logistics companies just to name a few. They all installed Asterisk to have a non-expensive open phone system that they could control and manage internally. They range in size from just a few phones to over 300 across multiple locations. I believe Digium even has a list of a few case studies, including some government entities that are using Asterisk. MATT--- On 7/20/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote:> I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be implementing Asterisk? > > These occur to me: > > CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. > ISP's wishing to provide voice services. > > Any others? > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >
Well, I wish some of those schools and fortune 500 companies would post their staffing requirements on dice and monster! Seriously, I'm not seeing much of anything related to Asterisk being posted on job sites. Lots of Cisco... LOTS of Cisco... and that's about it. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Joseph [mailto:ast@stillnewt.org] Sent: Thu 7/20/2006 9:39 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company On Jul 20, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Douglas Garstang wrote: > I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be > implementing Asterisk? > > These occur to me: > > CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. > ISP's wishing to provide voice services. > > Any others? > Schools and fortune 500 companies. _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Matt, I guess I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen on dice, monster, craigslist etc. Not much is showing up. Lots of googling hasn't found much either. At this point, I guess I'm just trying to work out if it's worth it continuing to find gainful employment involving Asterisk, getting more frustrated with that fact everyone (again, dice, monster etc) seems to be implementing Cisco solutions, or to give up and go back and do something else I've done before... which is far less interesting. I've been working for a CLEC for about a year now, and I've had to basically implement the whole darn thing myself. Everything from configuring phones to writing dial plan apps, to systems, networking, implementing more features than I can poke a stick at (sometimes I wonder if we bit off more than we can chew). I'm not sure if I'm going to find such a varied gig somewhere else. Implementing Asterisk for a carrier has to be more interesting than implementing it for Widgets Inc's internal phone system. Doug. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] Sent: Thu 7/20/2006 9:42 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company Any company. There is no typical company in my experience. I have worked with non-profits, political campaigns, magazine publishers, telemarketing call center companies, medical supplies companies and logistics companies just to name a few. They all installed Asterisk to have a non-expensive open phone system that they could control and manage internally. They range in size from just a few phones to over 300 across multiple locations. I believe Digium even has a list of a few case studies, including some government entities that are using Asterisk. MATT--- On 7/20/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote: > I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be implementing Asterisk? > > These occur to me: > > CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. > ISP's wishing to provide voice services. > > Any others? > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Good grief. I'm looking in the wrong places. I just am not finding data on these companies doing this. If there's so many companies implementing Asterisk, why aren't they advertising for people? I've been searching all the job sites for months now and very few things are being advertised. -----Original Message----- From: Raymond McKay [mailto:asterisk@raynettech.com] Sent: Thu 7/20/2006 10:15 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company I'm flying all over the world installing systems for companies ranging from 5 employees - 100s of employees. I don't think there really is a typical company per say. Types of business span the financial services sector, to manufacturiring, to software development. The same general need exists across all of them. They all wish to. 1) Get a full featured phone system but not at the bloated prices charged by Avaya and Cisco 2) Take advantage of the substational savings through VoIP providers. 3) Integration of their communication technologies. I think after I install a 100 systems this year, I'll make some graphs on company type and sectors and see if there are any trends, but as of now, its all over the place. Regards, Raymond McKay President RAYNET Technologies LLC http://www.raynettech.com (860) 693-2226 x 31 Toll Free (877) 693-2226 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Joseph" <ast@stillnewt.org> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > On Jul 20, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Douglas Garstang wrote: > >> I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be implementing >> Asterisk? >> >> These occur to me: >> >> CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. >> ISP's wishing to provide voice services. >> >> Any others? >> > > Schools and fortune 500 companies. > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
I think I'm looking for a carrier who's implementing Asterisk Matt. We're a carrier, and that probably explains a lot of the frustration, and hair tearing out we've had with Asterisks resundancy. Ie, it wasn't built with carriers in mind. It was build with IT implementations in mind. Consulting, while sounding great in principle, wouldn't work right now. Already got a day job (and there's that little issue of a non-compete clause in my contract...). Unfortunately my record is unproven yet. We are yet to deploy our product in production, but are moving towards it. Maybe later, especially after the confidence increases. Good grief, wouldn't even know how to dig up contacts. Thanks for the advice. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] Sent: Thu 7/20/2006 11:29 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company >From what I've seen the Asterisk systems that most of these companies are using are either installed or maintained by existing in-house IT staff , so not many new dedicated positions for it. All of the companies I have done installs for have their IT persons learn enough to do basic configurations and maintenance and if they need something major they go to a consultant like me. Maybe you should consider doing some freelance consulting for Asterisk. Asterisk consultants are in pretty high demand right now, especially consultants with a good track record and a lot of varied Asterisk experience. MATT--- On 7/21/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote: > Good grief. I'm looking in the wrong places. I just am not finding data on these companies doing this. If there's so many companies implementing Asterisk, why aren't they advertising for people? I've been searching all the job sites for months now and very few things are being advertised. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond McKay [mailto:asterisk@raynettech.com] > Sent: Thu 7/20/2006 10:15 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Cc: > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > > I'm flying all over the world installing systems for companies ranging from > 5 employees - 100s of employees. I don't think there really is a typical > company per say. Types of business span the financial services sector, to > manufacturiring, to software development. The same general need exists > across all of them. They all wish to. > > 1) Get a full featured phone system but not at the bloated prices charged by > Avaya and Cisco > 2) Take advantage of the substational savings through VoIP providers. > 3) Integration of their communication technologies. > > I think after I install a 100 systems this year, I'll make some graphs on > company type and sectors and see if there are any trends, but as of now, its > all over the place. > > Regards, > > Raymond McKay > President > RAYNET Technologies LLC > http://www.raynettech.com > (860) 693-2226 x 31 > Toll Free (877) 693-2226 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Joseph" <ast@stillnewt.org> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:39 PM > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > > > > On Jul 20, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Douglas Garstang wrote: > > > >> I'm wondering what types of companies are most likely to be implementing > >> Asterisk? > >> > >> These occur to me: > >> > >> CLEC's, and small rural telephone companies. > >> ISP's wishing to provide voice services. > >> > >> Any others? > >> > > > > Schools and fortune 500 companies. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond McKay [mailto:asterisk@raynettech.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:16 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > I'm flying all over the world installing systems for > companies ranging from > 5 employees - 100s of employees. I don't think there really > is a typical > company per say. Types of business span the financial > services sector, to > manufacturiring, to software development. The same general > need exists > across all of them. They all wish to. > > 1) Get a full featured phone system but not at the bloated > prices charged by > Avaya and Cisco > 2) Take advantage of the substational savings through VoIP providers. > 3) Integration of their communication technologies. > > I think after I install a 100 systems this year, I'll make > some graphs on > company type and sectors and see if there are any trends, but > as of now, its > all over the place.What are you giving these companies to allow them to manage their Asterisk installations Raymond? Are you just hard coding a dial plan customised to their needs, and administering their systems for them? Reason I ask is that I know there's GUI's out there, but you are probably also aware that people also always want more than these can provide. For example, in our installation, I had to cater for incoming and outgoing black-lists and white-lists, PIC codes, rate centers, a findme/followme implementation with caller id based routing, intra company 4 digit extension dialling, internal cid, external cid, cid override with a star code and so on. Douglas.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:43 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > Any company. There is no typical company in my experience. I have > worked with non-profits, political campaigns, magazine publishers, > telemarketing call center companies, medical supplies companies and > logistics companies just to name a few. > > They all installed Asterisk to have a non-expensive open phone system > that they could control and manage internally. They range in size from > just a few phones to over 300 across multiple locations. > > I believe Digium even has a list of a few case studies, including some > government entities that are using Asterisk. > > MATT---What are you giving these companies to allow them to manage their Asterisk installations Matt? Are you just hard coding a dial plan customised to their needs, and administering their systems for them? Reason I ask is that I know there's GUI's out there, but you are probably also aware that people also always want more than these can provide. For example, in our installation, I had to cater for incoming and outgoing black-lists and white-lists, PIC codes, rate centers, a findme/followme implementation with caller id based routing, intra company 4 digit extension dialling, internal cid, external cid, cid override with a star code and so on. Douglas.
Does astGUIclient/VICIDIAL have all the bells and whistles though?> -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:27 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > They always have Linux Administrators already so they just need to > learn how to edit the conf files. Also, most of them are using > astGUIclient/VICIDIAL which has it's own web interfaces. > > MATT--- > > On 7/21/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:43 PM > > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > > > > > > > Any company. There is no typical company in my experience. I have > > > worked with non-profits, political campaigns, magazine publishers, > > > telemarketing call center companies, medical supplies > companies and > > > logistics companies just to name a few. > > > > > > They all installed Asterisk to have a non-expensive open > phone system > > > that they could control and manage internally. They range > in size from > > > just a few phones to over 300 across multiple locations. > > > > > > I believe Digium even has a list of a few case studies, > including some > > > government entities that are using Asterisk. > > > > > > MATT--- > > > > What are you giving these companies to allow them to manage > their Asterisk installations Matt? > > Are you just hard coding a dial plan customised to their > needs, and administering their systems for them? > > > > Reason I ask is that I know there's GUI's out there, but > you are probably also aware that people also always want more > than these can provide. For example, in our installation, I > had to cater for incoming and outgoing black-lists and > white-lists, PIC codes, rate centers, a findme/followme > implementation with caller id based routing, intra company 4 > digit extension dialling, internal cid, external cid, cid > override with a star code and so on. > > > > Douglas. > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Well, as I said below... Can the user configure, on a per extension basis: - incoming and outgoing black-lists and white-lists with hierarchical management so that a company can set blocking and have it override user settings etc. - PIC codes, rate centers - findme/followme with caller id based routing - intra company 4 digit extension dialling, - internal cid, external cid, cid override I guess I'm just skeptical, given the ridiculous requirements for this deployment (apparently that's what customers want), that any GUI available today is going to be able to provide that. Doug.> -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:22 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > Not sure what you mean by bells and whistles, take a look at > the project site: > http://astguiclient.sf.net/ > > MATT--- > > On 7/21/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote: > > Does astGUIclient/VICIDIAL have all the bells and whistles though? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:27 AM > > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > > > > > > > They always have Linux Administrators already so they just need to > > > learn how to edit the conf files. Also, most of them are using > > > astGUIclient/VICIDIAL which has it's own web interfaces. > > > > > > MATT--- > > > > > > On 7/21/06, Douglas Garstang <dgarstang@oneeighty.com> wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Matt Florell [mailto:astmattf@gmail.com] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:43 PM > > > > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Typical Asterisk Company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any company. There is no typical company in my > experience. I have > > > > > worked with non-profits, political campaigns, > magazine publishers, > > > > > telemarketing call center companies, medical supplies > > > companies and > > > > > logistics companies just to name a few. > > > > > > > > > > They all installed Asterisk to have a non-expensive open > > > phone system > > > > > that they could control and manage internally. They range > > > in size from > > > > > just a few phones to over 300 across multiple locations. > > > > > > > > > > I believe Digium even has a list of a few case studies, > > > including some > > > > > government entities that are using Asterisk. > > > > > > > > > > MATT--- > > > > > > > > What are you giving these companies to allow them to manage > > > their Asterisk installations Matt? > > > > Are you just hard coding a dial plan customised to their > > > needs, and administering their systems for them? > > > > > > > > Reason I ask is that I know there's GUI's out there, but > > > you are probably also aware that people also always want more > > > than these can provide. For example, in our installation, I > > > had to cater for incoming and outgoing black-lists and > > > white-lists, PIC codes, rate centers, a findme/followme > > > implementation with caller id based routing, intra company 4 > > > digit extension dialling, internal cid, external cid, cid > > > override with a star code and so on. > > > > > > > > Douglas. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > asterisk-users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >