asterisk users - Jun 2006 - need help troubleshooting clipping and garbled VOIP calls

Hello all,
I have a problem with call quality with my Asterisk setup. I'm doing VOIP 
only so far, but have a zaptel TDM400P in the box not being used. The 
problem i'm having is that when calls are placed, connected, and the far-end
is reporting that they are experiencing clipping, choppy, and garbled voice 
conversations. So bad that we have to resort to using our cell phones. This 
entire setup is still being built, but any phone attached is experiencing 
this. Call volume is almost nil (under 20 total incoming calls a day). This 
is a small business setup. The server is used exclusively for Asterisk, so 
it isn't a fileserver, or anything else.

The setup is as such:

ipphone  <--->cisco 2900XL switch <----> Cisco 2621 router
<---> dsl modem
<-->DSL <---> VOIPprovider

I've configured the switch and the router to set priority and qos to 
prioritize voice traffic above data.
Funny thing is, there is not data REALLY hitting the network. I have setup 2 
vlans, data vlan, and voice vlan. There are two work stations on the 
network, and neither is being used to hit the internet heavily (office is 
still being setup).

Any pointers or suggestions anyone have for me as to were to look for this 
poor quality?
It seems only the Far-end (called party), is hearing this and not the 
calling party.

I haven't tried switching out the phones because we only have 1 type, and 
any of the phones i used exhibit these problems. I will try softphones to 
see if it is truly a "networking" issue or Phone issue.

Is anyone using a cisco 2900 switch or router and care to provide config 
samples of their COS/QOS setup?

Thanks!

Terrelle Shaw

Sounds like a QoS issue with your DSL provider. If you go to
http://www.bandwidth.com/tools/voipTest it might give you some insight.

James Hawks

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] need help troubleshooting clipping and garbledVOIP
calls

Hello all,
I have a problem with call quality with my Asterisk setup. I'm doing VOIP 
only so far, but have a zaptel TDM400P in the box not being used. The 
problem i'm having is that when calls are placed, connected, and the far-end

is reporting that they are experiencing clipping, choppy, and garbled voice 
conversations. So bad that we have to resort to using our cell phones. This 
entire setup is still being built, but any phone attached is experiencing 
this. Call volume is almost nil (under 20 total incoming calls a day). This 
is a small business setup. The server is used exclusively for Asterisk, so 
it isn't a fileserver, or anything else.

The setup is as such:

ipphone  <--->cisco 2900XL switch <----> Cisco 2621 router
<---> dsl modem
<-->DSL <---> VOIPprovider

I've configured the switch and the router to set priority and qos to 
prioritize voice traffic above data.
Funny thing is, there is not data REALLY hitting the network. I have setup 2

vlans, data vlan, and voice vlan. There are two work stations on the 
network, and neither is being used to hit the internet heavily (office is 
still being setup).

Any pointers or suggestions anyone have for me as to were to look for this 
poor quality?
It seems only the Far-end (called party), is hearing this and not the 
calling party.

I haven't tried switching out the phones because we only have 1 type, and 
any of the phones i used exhibit these problems. I will try softphones to 
see if it is truly a "networking" issue or Phone issue.

Is anyone using a cisco 2900 switch or router and care to provide config 
samples of their COS/QOS setup?

Thanks!

Terrelle Shaw


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T. Shaw wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have a problem with call quality with my Asterisk setup. I'm doing 
> VOIP only so far, but have a zaptel TDM400P in the box not being used. 
> The problem i'm having is that when calls are placed, connected, and
the
> far-end is reporting that they are experiencing clipping, choppy, and 
> garbled voice conversations. So bad that we have to resort to using our 
> cell phones. This entire setup is still being built, but any phone 
> attached is experiencing this. Call volume is almost nil (under 20 total 
> incoming calls a day). This is a small business setup. The server is 
> used exclusively for Asterisk, so it isn't a fileserver, or anything
else.
> 
> The setup is as such:
> 
> ipphone  <--->cisco 2900XL switch <----> Cisco 2621 router
<---> dsl
> modem <-->DSL <---> VOIPprovider
> 
> I've configured the switch and the router to set priority and qos to 
> prioritize voice traffic above data.
> Funny thing is, there is not data REALLY hitting the network. I have 
> setup 2 vlans, data vlan, and voice vlan. There are two work stations on 
> the network, and neither is being used to hit the internet heavily 
> (office is still being setup).
> 
> Any pointers or suggestions anyone have for me as to were to look for 
> this poor quality?
> It seems only the Far-end (called party), is hearing this and not the 
> calling party.
> 
> I haven't tried switching out the phones because we only have 1 type, 
> and any of the phones i used exhibit these problems. I will try 
> softphones to see if it is truly a "networking" issue or Phone
issue.
> 
> Is anyone using a cisco 2900 switch or router and care to provide config 
> samples of their COS/QOS setup?
Highly unlikely the ipphones or switch have anything to do with the 
problem. Most likely cause is the dsl "upload" speed (which is usually
substantially slower then download speed).

Just as an FYI... the QoS settings in any Cisco product (including the 
2900 switch) do not actually kick in "until" a switch port becomes 
congested. So if your switch ports are running at only 10 megabits, 
you'd have to be moving data (including voice) at that rate before QoS 
begins to give priority to voice packets.

If your voip provider supports a low bit-rate codec, you might consider 
using something like g729 to see if that impacts the problem. If it does 
improve it, then either your dsl connection is the problem (to slow), 
or, your dsl provider's data network is less then adequate to move the 
voice packets through in a reliable way.

There are several internet sites that you can use to test your bandwidth 
if you want to try those. One is dslreports.com, but there are others. 
Goggle should give you plenty to work with.

T. Shaw wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I have a problem with call quality with my Asterisk setup. I'm
doing
> > VOIP only so far, but have a zaptel TDM400P in the box not being used.
> > The problem i'm having is that when calls are placed, connected,
and
> > the far-end is reporting that they are experiencing clipping, choppy,
> > and garbled voice conversations. So bad that we have to resort to
> > using our cell phones. This entire setup is still being built, but any
> > phone attached is experiencing this. Call volume is almost nil (under
> > 20 total incoming calls a day). This is a small business setup. The
> > server is used exclusively for Asterisk, so it isn't a fileserver,
or
> > anything else.
> >
> > The setup is as such:
> >
> > ipphone  <--->cisco 2900XL switch <----> Cisco 2621 router
<---> dsl
> > modem <-->DSL <---> VOIPprovider
> >
> > I've configured the switch and the router to set priority and qos
to
> > prioritize voice traffic above data.
> > Funny thing is, there is not data REALLY hitting the network. I have
> > setup 2 vlans, data vlan, and voice vlan. There are two work stations
> > on the network, and neither is being used to hit the internet heavily
> > (office is still being setup).
> >
> > Any pointers or suggestions anyone have for me as to were to look for
> > this poor quality?
> > It seems only the Far-end (called party), is hearing this and not the
> > calling party.
> >
> > I haven't tried switching out the phones because we only have 1
type,
> > and any of the phones i used exhibit these problems. I will try
> > softphones to see if it is truly a "networking" issue or
Phone issue.
> >
> > Is anyone using a cisco 2900 switch or router and care to provide
> > config samples of their COS/QOS setup?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Terrelle Shaw
> >
>   
I've got a similar setup (which does have a TDM card and voip incoming
and outgoing), for some reason an IAX provider (which provides most of
our calls incoming and outgoing) has this problem, whereas a different
SIP one doesn't seem to.

I have checked my traffic shaping script, and everything seems fine, the
same provider works flawlesly from home, with a simliar setup (only
without a timing source and a cable modem).

I'd be very interested to see what you find out.

>