asterisk users - Jan 2006 - connect more the one phone to ONE sip Acoount

Hello,
how is it possible to connect (register)  more the one Phone to One 
Sip-Acoount.

With, for example sipgate.de this is not a special feature, it is common.
We have users, what like to have more then one Phone, -> Homeoffice and Desk

Rigth now if a other phone registers whith the data, the first ist removed.

Thanks
Andreas Koch

---- Original Message ----
From: "Andreas Koch" <andreas@koch-metallbau.de>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"
<asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] connect more the one phone to ONE sip Acoount
> Hello,
> how is it possible to connect (register)  more the one Phone to One
> Sip-Acoount.
>
> With, for example sipgate.de this is not a special feature, it is
> common. We have users, what like to have more then one Phone, ->
> Homeoffice and Desk
> Rigth now if a other phone registers whith the data, the first ist
> removed.
You must use a proxy, for instance SER.

According to the wiki, "FWD and SIPGATE both run SER coupled with Asterisk
"

SER handles multiple registrations, Asterisk doesn't.

Leif

Andreas Koch wrote:
> Hello,
> how is it possible to connect (register)  more the one Phone to One 
> Sip-Acoount.
> 
> With, for example sipgate.de this is not a special feature, it is common.
> We have users, what like to have more then one Phone, -> Homeoffice and 
> Desk
> 
> Rigth now if a other phone registers whith the data, the first ist removed.
> 
You have to consider that Asterisk is a multiprotocol PBX and that the 
PBX need to be in control of each device connected to the PBX. With 
multiple registrations for one account we would break the Asterisk 
architecture unless we did some very clever stuff. This has been 
discussed quite a lot of times, so please search the mailing list for 
more information.

With the ASTUM module, we will separate users from devices, but you 
still have to configure each device.

/Olle

What is the ASTUM module? If I may ask.

On 1/2/06, Olle E Johansson <oej@edvina.net>
wrote:
> Andreas Koch wrote:
> > Hello,
> > how is it possible to connect (register)  more the one Phone to One
> > Sip-Acoount.
> >
> > With, for example sipgate.de this is not a special feature, it is
common.
> > We have users, what like to have more then one Phone, -> Homeoffice
and
> > Desk
> >
> > Rigth now if a other phone registers whith the data, the first ist
removed.
> >
> You have to consider that Asterisk is a multiprotocol PBX and that the
> PBX need to be in control of each device connected to the PBX. With
> multiple registrations for one account we would break the Asterisk
> architecture unless we did some very clever stuff. This has been
> discussed quite a lot of times, so please search the mailing list for
> more information.
>
> With the ASTUM module, we will separate users from devices, but you
> still have to configure each device.
>
> /Olle
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C F wrote:
>What is the ASTUM module? If I may ask.
>
>  
>
ASTUM - The Asterisk User Management module.

Cheers,
Madhawa

Yes thanks to the Happy New Asterisk Year post I figured that out.
Thank You

On 1/2/06, Dualcall.com <asterisk-user@dualcall.com>
wrote:
> C F wrote:
>
> >What is the ASTUM module? If I may ask.
> >
> >
> >
> ASTUM - The Asterisk User Management module.
>
> Cheers,
> Madhawa
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Olle E Johansson wrote / skrev:
> Andreas Koch wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> how is it possible to connect (register)  more the one Phone to One 
>> Sip-Acoount.
>>
>> With, for example sipgate.de this is not a special feature, it is
common.
>> We have users, what like to have more then one Phone, -> Homeoffice 
>> and Desk
>>
>> Rigth now if a other phone registers whith the data, the first ist 
>> removed.
>>
> You have to consider that Asterisk is a multiprotocol PBX and that the 
> PBX need to be in control of each device connected to the PBX. With 
> multiple registrations for one account we would break the Asterisk 
> architecture unless we did some very clever stuff. This has been 
> discussed quite a lot of times, so please search the mailing list for 
> more information.
I understand that allowing multiple registrations would break chan_sip, 
but how can it break the Asterisk architecture if the forking is done by 
the Dial application? Would it really matter if the dial string contains 
multiple SIP AOR:s/users, which is possible today, or multiple bindings 
for one SIP AOR?

Example of Dial with multiple SIP AOR:s/users, working today:
Dial(SIP/user1&SIP/user2)

Example of Dial with multiple bindings for one SIP AOR, expanded by FOO:
Dial(${FOO(user1)}) => Dial(SIP/user1/10.1.1.1&SIP/user1/10.2.2.2)

/Mikael