asterisk users - Nov 2005 - Can Asterisk Set CallerID on Broadvoice?

Hey,

Has anybody been able to get Broadvoice to pass the callerid string that
Asterisk feeds it to the PSTN? If not, can anyone recommend a provider with
a similar pricing structure (monthly fee for more-or-less unlimited
termination to USA and 20-30 other countries) that will pass callerid
(preferably IAX but SIP is fine)?

I have found a provider that can provide reliable DIDs and reliable DTMF
detection via rfc2833, but I am not that happy with their outgoing pricing
structure. So, I would like to have this carrier originate all calls to my
DIDs, while sending calls from within my system out via whatever SIP or IAX
trunk I choose, using one of my DID numbers as the callerid value.

Thanks,
Rusty
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Rusty Dekema wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Has anybody been able to get Broadvoice to pass the callerid string
> that Asterisk feeds it to the PSTN? If not, can anyone recommend a
> provider with a similar pricing structure (monthly fee for
> more-or-less unlimited termination to USA and 20-30 other countries)
> that will pass callerid (preferably IAX but SIP is fine)?
>
> I have found a provider that can provide reliable DIDs and reliable
> DTMF detection via rfc2833, but I am not that happy with their
> outgoing pricing structure. So, I would like to have this carrier
> originate all calls to my DIDs, while sending calls from within my
> system out via whatever SIP or IAX trunk I choose, using one of my DID
> numbers as the callerid value.
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty
Rusty,

Use a few of the paid IAX termination providers so you have failover if
one is down. That way you can set caller ID and not worry about your
"unlimited" account being closed or extra charges being billed.

Retail accounts like broadvoice offers come with a few "gotchas":

1) Business use of residential account is prohibited

2) No resale. If you have customers they need to put the account in
their name and pay directly.

3) Opening multiple channels(typically more than 2) at a time will
result in extra charges. In many cases that might be 3.9c/minute billed
in full minutes and rounded up to nearest cent. So if you have 2
channels in use and an incoming caller simply hangs up when he hears the
first auto-attendant prompt, it costs you 4c.

I have accounts with 4 IAX termination providers that accept paypal.
Some of them offer 0.25 credit so you can test. I started each with a $5
prepay via paypal. So $20 is not much to spend in order to have 4
different termination providers.

Rusty Dekema wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Has anybody been able to get Broadvoice to pass the callerid string
> that Asterisk feeds it to the PSTN? If not, can anyone recommend a
> provider with a similar pricing structure (monthly fee for
> more-or-less unlimited termination to USA and 20-30 other countries)
> that will pass callerid (preferably IAX but SIP is fine)?
>
> I have found a provider that can provide reliable DIDs and reliable
> DTMF detection via rfc2833, but I am not that happy with their
> outgoing pricing structure. So, I would like to have this carrier
> originate all calls to my DIDs, while sending calls from within my
> system out via whatever SIP or IAX trunk I choose, using one of my DID
> numbers as the callerid value.
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty
To answer your question about passing caller ID via broadvoice: It is
not permitted to change the CID number. It might pass the name when
calling another BV account.

I have a vonage softphone hooked into asterisk. I can not change caller
ID number even when calling other vonage numbers but changing the name 
seems to work. I called my brother's vonage phone. He got my softphone
number on his display but the name he got was "Nasty Ho Hotline" :)

On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 09:28 -0500, Paul wrote:
> To answer your question about passing caller ID via broadvoice: It is
> not permitted to change the CID number. It might pass the name when
> calling another BV account.
> 
Its not permitted becuase broadvoice auths against the caller id data..

To see something funny if you have 2 broadvoice accounts (do not use
someone elses that is a bad thing) set account 1 to use the callerid of
account 2, you will see a failed invite (at least with 1.0.x) on account
2 for the call.  I almost wonder if all SIP devices are smart enough to
reject such calls or if they are gonna have problems with people abusing
that knowledge to force people to call premium numbers and such.


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trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
>On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 09:28 -0500, Paul wrote:
>  
>
>>To answer your question about passing caller ID via broadvoice: It is
>>not permitted to change the CID number. It might pass the name when
>>calling another BV account.
>>
>>    
>>
>Its not permitted becuase broadvoice auths against the caller id data..
>  
>
Did they always do it that way? Are you saying that both number and name
sent must match values shown in the web account portal?
>To see something funny if you have 2 broadvoice accounts (do not use
>someone elses that is a bad thing) set account 1 to use the callerid of
>account 2, you will see a failed invite (at least with 1.0.x) on account
>2 for the call.  I almost wonder if all SIP devices are smart enough to
>reject such calls or if they are gonna have problems with people abusing
>that knowledge to force people to call premium numbers and such.
>  
>

> Its not permitted becuase broadvoice auths against the caller id data..
> 
> To see something funny if you have 2 broadvoice accounts (do not use
> someone elses that is a bad thing) set account 1 to use the callerid of
> account 2, you will see a failed invite (at least with 1.0.x) on account
> 2 for the call.  I almost wonder if all SIP devices are smart enough to
> reject such calls or if they are gonna have problems with people abusing
> that knowledge to force people to call premium numbers and such.
BV apparently has decided to avoid those callerid problems by implementing
limits on their equipment that basically emulates the US pstn telephony
standards. Since we all know BV uses non-asterisk equipment for their
primary itsp infrastructure, the limitation might be imposed by their
softswitch manufacturer.

I have a friend that works in a US central office and he reportedly
will change the calleridname in the libd database to "God Calling",
dial
a friend, and then change it back. Raises at least some questions. ;)

Thanks for all the replies. I probably shouldn't have used the word
"string"
in callerid string, as I really meant just the numeric digits, not the
calleridname data, as I am aware that there are many complications behind
that :).

-Rusty
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