asterisk users - Nov 2005 - Editing Asterisk config files with WORD Pad

Hi,

I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS Word 
Pad and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with quotes 
around the full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the files
to a
Linux server using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to 
work. Although I am somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it easier 
to cut and paste with Word Pad (I know I can cut and paste with 'vi'... 
). Is this possible to do or am I all wet...

Thanks

a unicode document comes in two flavors UTF8 and UCS2 in windows UTF8 
"may" work, but UCS2 cannot work, as it is 2 bytes per character.

UTF8 will not work if wordpad puts a byte order sentinal at the begining 
or if you use any characters above 0x7e (or 0x7f?)

use ascii (DOS format) to save your files, but beware of line ending 
problems...

why not just use nano/pico?

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Chuck Bunn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS Word
Pad
> and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with quotes
around the
> full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the files to a
Linux server
> using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to work. Although I
am
> somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it easier to cut and paste
with Word
> Pad (I know I can cut and paste with 'vi'... ). Is this possible to
do or am
> I all wet...
>
> Thanks
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Use notepad if you must edit them on a windows box. 

Nano/Pico/Joe are pretty user friendly editors for the *nix environment.


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> bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Bunn
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:19 AM
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> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Editing Asterisk config files with WORD Pad
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS
Word
> Pad and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with
quotes
> around the full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the
files to
a
> Linux server using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to
> work. Although I am somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it
easier
> to cut and paste with Word Pad (I know I can cut and paste with
'vi'...
> ). Is this possible to do or am I all wet...
> 
> Thanks
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You can but I find it easiest to use WinSCP for editing.  Navagate to the
file you want to edit and right click on it and select edit.  When done
click the little floppy icon and it is saved directly to the server.

> Hi,
>
> I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS Word
> Pad and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with
quotes
> around the full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the
files to a
> Linux server using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to
> work. Although I am somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it
easier
> to cut and paste with Word Pad (I know I can cut and paste with
'vi'...
> ). Is this possible to do or am I all wet...
>
> Thanks
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If you prefer the capabilities of the gui, I'd recommend against 
wordpad. You don't want (can't have?) the wrong line termination chars 
in there.

I have found crimson editor to be quick-loading and easy to use - 
www.crimsoneditor.com - small memory footprint.

Conversely, I often use nano for very minor .conf editing.  It's Ctrl-K 
and Ctrl-U functions are fairly easy ways to copy blocks of text around 
a file.  And if you open two terminals, with nano in each, you could of 
course copy-n-paste between windows with your mouse.

Moj

Chuck Bunn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS Word 
> Pad and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with
quotes
> around the full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the
files to a
> Linux server using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to 
> work. Although I am somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it
easier
> to cut and paste with Word Pad (I know I can cut and paste with
'vi'...
> ). Is this possible to do or am I all wet...
> 
> Thanks
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On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 11:56 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> a unicode document comes in two flavors UTF8 and UCS2 in windows UTF8 
> "may" work, but UCS2 cannot work, as it is 2 bytes per character.
> 
> UTF8 will not work if wordpad puts a byte order sentinal at the begining 
> or if you use any characters above 0x7e (or 0x7f?)
> 
> use ascii (DOS format) to save your files, but beware of line ending 
> problems...
> 
dos2unix (if installed) can fix  the line termination problem..

Dos/win likes to use \r\n (^M^J) to terminate.  Unix likes just \n, and
traditional mac likes just \r.  

There is a something you can do if dos2unix isnt installed using tr,
which will do the same thing.  
cat file | tr -d \\r > file.new ; mv file.new file

Note if you are doing this on a mac that does line terminators as just
\r you need to replace that with \n.  This can be accomplished by:
cat file | tr \\r \\n > file.new ; mv file.new file


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On Windows, I really like TextPad (shareware - www.textpad.com ) for editing 
text files.

It handles the line ending issue well (you can save in PC or unix format). 
It has great search and replace functionality.  And you can edit a bunch of 
files at once.

Best, WILL
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> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:19:24 -0700
> From: Chuck Bunn <chuck.bunn@networkdoc.com>
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Editing Asterisk config files with WORD Pad
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> Hi,
>
> I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS Word
> Pad and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with
quotes
> around the full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the
files to a
> Linux server using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to
> work. Although I am somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it
easier
> to cut and paste with Word Pad (I know I can cut and paste with
'vi'...
> ). Is this possible to do or am I all wet...
>
> Thanks
>

The best freeware editor I have ever seen for Windows is Crimson Editor:

www.crimsonedit.com

Line numbering, syntax detect, syntax highlighting, platform / LF agnostic,
last file edited automatic open, the list goes on. 

I WinSCP my .conf files to Windows, edit them with Crimson, upload them
back. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Bunn [mailto:chuck.bunn@networkdoc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:14 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Editing Asterisk config files with WORD Pad

Hi,

I just tried WINSCP and it worked great it even allowed me to take my
previously created files in Windows and correctly format them for Linux.

Thanks
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On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 10:17 -0800, Will Glass-Husain
wrote:
> On Windows, I really like TextPad (shareware - www.textpad.com ) for
editing
> text files.
I like edlin cause its old school :P


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* I like edlin cause its old school :P

copy con extensions.conf ^z

Better not screw up! 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:08 PM
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On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 12:57 -0700, Colin Anderson wrote:
> * I like edlin cause its old school :P
> 
> copy con extensions.conf ^z
> 
> Better not screw up! 
"command not found" :P

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trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
>On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 12:57 -0700, Colin Anderson wrote:
>  
>
>>* I like edlin cause its old school :P
>>
>>copy con extensions.conf ^z
>>
>>Better not screw up! 
>>    
>>
>
>"command not found" :P
>  
>
Get modern!

Just set up an email-based template system like the one I have to use to
change records at ARIN:

Template: ARIN-ORG-SIMPLE-3.2.3
**********************************************************************
**                        As of June 2005                           **
**                                                                  **
**     Enter all information to the right of the colon (:).         **
**                                                                  **
**    DO NOT modify the format of this template in any way.         **
**                                                                  **
*********************** IDENTIFICATION SECTION ***********************

1. ** REQUIRED. Specify N for New, M for Modify, or R for Remove. 
Registration Action:M

2. ** REQUIRED FOR MODIFY OR REMOVE. Enter organization ID. Must be
   ** blank for new.
Org ID:ACMEWI-44

3. ** REQUIRED FOR NEW. Enter your organization name, using no more 
   ** than 150 characters. 
Org Name:Acme Widgets

and so on .....

I used to use ConText, but now I prefer Notepad++.
Both are free and for Windows.
They both let you easily edit Unix formatted text files.

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"Chuck Bunn" <chuck.bunn@networkdoc.com> wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I have tried editing some Asterisk config files (ie sip.conf) in MS Word 
> Pad and I have saved the files as 'Unicode Text Document' with
quotes
> around the full file name => "sip.conf" and then uploaded the
files to a
> Linux server using FileZilla. When I do this the config files fail to 
> work. Although I am somewhat proficient at using 'vi' I find it
easier to
> cut and paste with Word Pad (I know I can cut and paste with
'vi'... ). Is
> this possible to do or am I all wet...
>
> Thanks
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