> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of > George Pajari > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronization > > > We have a customer considering migrating from a large Nortel > PBX with a > third-party voicemail system to Asterisk but one of the features they > really like is the automatic synchronization of voicemail between > Exchange and their voicemail system -- delete a message from the > voicemail system and it is deleted from their email inbox and > vice versa. > > Searching has not revealed anything like this being developed for > Asterisk and yet it would appear to be a critical component needed to > migrate customers used to fully integrated "Unified > Messaging" systems > to Asterisk. > > (a) Has anyone cracked this nut (or started on it)? > > (b) Anyone interested if we post a bounty?>From my perspective, not sure I would want Exchange (Which is difficultenough to manage) to be cluttered up with potentially large voicemail files, I would have thought that most Exchange clients are most likely to be Outlook based, who could use pst & Imap (Or pop3 if asterisk could auto forward and then delete voice mail) to retrieve voicemail via email without having to worry about central Exchange issues. Might be my lack of knowledge but this would appear to be able to be written as a mapi outlook add in that could update Asterisk to purge voice mail at the same time the user deletes the local copy? Based on the assumption on Imap? I would support a bounty either way that offered this feature. Magnus
Magnus' idea seems to have a new twist on this, interesting, to look at this from outside looking back at *. Most corporate Exchange users use Outlook as a directly-connected client, no IMAP, no POP. If Outlook client used a DLL as an add-in, which could: 1. parse the subject line of messages that were deleted (ie: would have unique ID's inserted in subject line) 2. take that "VM ID #" variable 3. connect to * 4. black magic happens here 5. delete VM msg ID # Then we would have it, as well as having some sort of structure that might be adaptable to other email clients with the proper retrofitting. I could be completely wrong. Peace. Jason Sjobeck icq:5579183 <snip>>From my perspective, not sure I would want Exchange (Which is difficultenough to manage) to be cluttered up with potentially large voicemail files, I would have thought that most Exchange clients are most likely to be Outlook based, who could use pst & Imap (Or pop3 if asterisk could auto forward and then delete voice mail) to retrieve voicemail via email without having to worry about central Exchange issues. Might be my lack of knowledge but this would appear to be able to be written as a mapi outlook add in that could update Asterisk to purge voice mail at the same time the user deletes the local copy? Based on the assumption on Imap? I would support a bounty either way that offered this feature. Magnus </snip> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20050609/53ac4681/attachment.htm
>From my perspective, not sure I would want Exchange (Which is difficult > enough to manage) to be cluttered up with potentially large voicemail files, > I would have thought that most Exchange clients are most likely to be > Outlook based, who could use pst & Imap (Or pop3 if asterisk could auto > forward and then delete voice mail) to retrieve voicemail via email without > having to worry about central Exchange issues. Might be my lack of knowledge > but this would appear to be able to be written as a mapi outlook add in that > could update Asterisk to purge voice mail at the same time the user deletes > the local copy? Based on the assumption on Imap? I would support a bounty > either way that offered this feature. > Magnus >I don't think that the solution should be based for Outlook when used as a pop3 or imap client (although it could work with imap as well). That would make make it very complicated besides for the fact that it will require that every client has a program that has access to the asterisk box to delete the vm. It should rather be done for Outlook as an Exchange client and not as when in stand alone. The way these things usualy get done is that an exchange/outlook form is created and published to the exchange organization, the form is coded to contact either an exchange connector, or using server side scripting that if when deleted the SERVER not the client, notfies the asterisk box about it. When asterisk sends the message to Exchange it will then have to either: Tell Exchange to use the form we want, or again use the connector to email the vm.
IMAP vs. Exchange I would be very weary of using IMAP against an Exchange Server. I have not touch it for years but IMAP and Exchange did not play together really well back then. Has anyone actually used real IMAP to talk to an Exchange server from a Linux client lately? If your Linux client can play nice then IMAP with exchange might work. The trick is getting Exchange to talk to you if you are not a MAPI client. Just some thoughts, if you can get it to work that would be great and I think people would buy it. Race "the tyrant" Vanderdecken -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of magnus Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:08 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of > George Pajari > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronization > > > We have a customer considering migrating from a large Nortel > PBX with a > third-party voicemail system to Asterisk but one of the features they > really like is the automatic synchronization of voicemail between > Exchange and their voicemail system -- delete a message from the > voicemail system and it is deleted from their email inbox and > vice versa. > > Searching has not revealed anything like this being developed for > Asterisk and yet it would appear to be a critical component needed to > migrate customers used to fully integrated "Unified > Messaging" systems > to Asterisk. > > (a) Has anyone cracked this nut (or started on it)? > > (b) Anyone interested if we post a bounty?>From my perspective, not sure I would want Exchange (Which is difficultenough to manage) to be cluttered up with potentially large voicemail files, I would have thought that most Exchange clients are most likely to be Outlook based, who could use pst & Imap (Or pop3 if asterisk could auto forward and then delete voice mail) to retrieve voicemail via email without having to worry about central Exchange issues. Might be my lack of knowledge but this would appear to be able to be written as a mapi outlook add in that could update Asterisk to purge voice mail at the same time the user deletes the local copy? Based on the assumption on Imap? I would support a bounty either way that offered this feature. Magnus _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
I have used Exchange 2000/2003 with IMAP just fine. But I think the key is to make a connector to the exchange server. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Race Vanderdecken Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:50 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange IMAP vs. Exchange I would be very weary of using IMAP against an Exchange Server. I have not touch it for years but IMAP and Exchange did not play together really well back then. Has anyone actually used real IMAP to talk to an Exchange server from a Linux client lately? If your Linux client can play nice then IMAP with exchange might work. The trick is getting Exchange to talk to you if you are not a MAPI client. Just some thoughts, if you can get it to work that would be great and I think people would buy it. Race "the tyrant" Vanderdecken -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of magnus Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:08 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of > George Pajari > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:19 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Voicemail and MS Exchange Synchronization > > > We have a customer considering migrating from a large Nortel > PBX with a > third-party voicemail system to Asterisk but one of the features they > really like is the automatic synchronization of voicemail between > Exchange and their voicemail system -- delete a message from the > voicemail system and it is deleted from their email inbox and > vice versa. > > Searching has not revealed anything like this being developed for > Asterisk and yet it would appear to be a critical component needed to > migrate customers used to fully integrated "Unified > Messaging" systems > to Asterisk. > > (a) Has anyone cracked this nut (or started on it)? > > (b) Anyone interested if we post a bounty?>From my perspective, not sure I would want Exchange (Which is difficultenough to manage) to be cluttered up with potentially large voicemail files, I would have thought that most Exchange clients are most likely to be Outlook based, who could use pst & Imap (Or pop3 if asterisk could auto forward and then delete voice mail) to retrieve voicemail via email without having to worry about central Exchange issues. Might be my lack of knowledge but this would appear to be able to be written as a mapi outlook add in that could update Asterisk to purge voice mail at the same time the user deletes the local copy? Based on the assumption on Imap? I would support a bounty either way that offered this feature. Magnus _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> -----Original Message----- > From: magnus [mailto:magnus@mcomwifi.net]> >From my perspective, not sure I would want Exchange (Which > is difficult enough to manage) to be cluttered up with > potentially large voicemail files,That's a concern, especially since bugs in current Asterisk versions require you to use uncompressed WAV files to get acceptable volume levels. However, this *is* a common configuration for other products. We used to have a CallXpress system that used Exchange as a message store. It stored voice messages in people's Exchange mailboxes, and could even read email messages over the phone via text-to-speech. The interface with Exchange was kind of kludgy, though, and not entirely reliable. It actually used a copy of Outlook on the voicemail server to talk to Exchange.> I would have thought that most Exchange clients are most likely to be > Outlook based, who could use pst & Imap (Or pop3 if asterisk > could auto > forward and then delete voice mail) to retrieve voicemail via > email without > having to worry about central Exchange issues.IMAP is no good. Outlook, at least in older versions, cannot handle both an IMAP account and an Exchange account at the same time. (They can do POP3 and Exchange together, though.) A voicemail app that used an IMAP server as its message store would still be a nice feature, though. It might even work with Exchange, which can act as an IMAP server.