When your TDM card does not load. Plug in the molex power tap. I helps :) 10 hours wasted on downloading different Zaptel and Asterisk versions and the "I must be stupid" feeling to find it unpluged in the computer...... -- <sig> Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) WWW: http://lathama.com Email: lathama@lathama.com - lathama@yahoo.com - lathama@gmail.com If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email! </sig>