asterisk@frameweb.it
2005-May-31 06:08 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Tools for effectively manage Asterisk
Hallo, we have started playing with asterisk about one month ago, and we do like very much what we are experiencing. Now we would like to take some step further towards "standardizing" installed modules, functionalities, tools etc. The "wall" we are facing now is: choosing the right tool for * management. We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important to us); it also suffers from its prerequisites: apache, mysql, php... too much things that should not go in a pbx.... We tried IPSwitchboard, but it seems only good as a monitor, not as a configuration tool (are we correct or are we missing something?) At this point we are thinking that we better abandon the idea of GUI tools and that we must go on the road of "vi editing" of .conf files. We would like to understand what other people are using for asterisk management, and to get some suggestion from the community. Any suggestion is welcome Francesco Pellegrini +--------------------------------+ | Frame Srl | | Via Antonio Cantore 62/10 | | 16149 Genova | | Tel. +39 010 8680570 | | Fax. +39 010 6591413 | | Cell. +348 2237798 | +--------------------------------+
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 15:08 +0200, asterisk@frameweb.it wrote:> Hallo, > > we have started playing with asterisk about one month ago, and we do like > very much what we are experiencing. > Now we would like to take some step further towards "standardizing" > installed modules, functionalities, tools etc. > > The "wall" we are facing now is: choosing the right tool for * management. > > We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important to us); > it also suffers from its prerequisites: apache, mysql, php... too much > things that should not go in a pbx.... > > We tried IPSwitchboard, but it seems only good as a monitor, not as a > configuration tool (are we correct or are we missing something?) > > At this point we are thinking that we better abandon the idea of GUI tools > and that we must go on the road of "vi editing" of .conf files. > > We would like to understand what other people are using for asterisk > management, and to get some suggestion from the community.Vi is certainly a simple and stable solution. One idea that works well for us, is to put similar static type configs together. For example: put all the remote sip entries in one config and all the local sip entries in another, than include them both in your sip.conf file. It would be interesting if vi would highlight the * entries. -- respectfully, Joseph ==============---------------------= ********** =
asterisk@frameweb.it wrote:>We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important to us); > >The 1.10.008 version of AMP supports Custom Trunks. Text from the AMP tooltip: -begin- Define the custom Dial String. Include the token $OUTNUM$ wherever the number to dial should go. examples: CAPI/XXXXXXXX:b$OUTNUM$,30,r H323/$OUTNUM$@XX.XX.XX.XX OH323/$OUTNUM$@XX.XX.XX.XX:XXXX vpb/1-1/$OUTNUM$ -end- Regards, -- Jason Becker Director & CEO Coalescent Systems Inc. Enabling Open Source Telephony 403.244.8089 www.coalescentsystems.ca
Dustin Wildes
2005-May-31 06:33 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Tools for effectively manage Asterisk
asterisk@frameweb.it wrote:>Hallo, > >we have started playing with asterisk about one month ago, and we do like >very much what we are experiencing. >Now we would like to take some step further towards "standardizing" >installed modules, functionalities, tools etc. > >The "wall" we are facing now is: choosing the right tool for * management. > >We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important to us); >it also suffers from its prerequisites: apache, mysql, php... too much >things that should not go in a pbx.... > >We tried IPSwitchboard, but it seems only good as a monitor, not as a >configuration tool (are we correct or are we missing something?) > >At this point we are thinking that we better abandon the idea of GUI tools >and that we must go on the road of "vi editing" of .conf files. > >We would like to understand what other people are using for asterisk >management, and to get some suggestion from the community. > >Any suggestion is welcome > > > >We are working on finalizing a production release of our PhoneCALL product, a GPL php/smarty configuration GUI for Asterisk: http://www.vecsector.com/phonecall I feel there is nothing wrong with having a web-based configuration utility, if set up correctly. Look at the WRT54G Linksys router, plus other countless devices that use an embedded browser for configurations. It can save a lot of time on training new employees, and syntax issues when starting out. Our goal is to have a GUI that is just as flexible as writing configurations by hand, but not having to write it by hand. ;-) PhoneCALL is not production ready yet, we are on 2.5-RC4 - but within a week or so, we plan to have a very nice/clean stable version that is production ready. We don't have CAPI support built-in yet, but open for any help anyone would like to lend.
asterisk@frameweb.it
2005-May-31 06:42 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Tools for effectively manage Asterisk
Jason, thanks a lot for the info. Is there any way to separate AMP stuff from asterisk, in other words to have AMP, apache and so on on a different pbx than asterisk? Tia & brgds Francesco Pellegrini Frame srl pellegrini@frameweb.it Jason Becker <jason@coalescent systems.ca> To Sent by: Asterisk Users Mailing List - asterisk-users-bo Non-Commercial Discussion unces@lists.digiu <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> m.com cc Subject 31/05/2005 15.28 Re: [Asterisk-Users] Tools for effectively manage Asterisk Please respond to Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <asterisk-users@l ists.digium.com> asterisk@frameweb.it wrote:>We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important to us); > >The 1.10.008 version of AMP supports Custom Trunks. Text from the AMP tooltip: -begin- Define the custom Dial String. Include the token $OUTNUM$ wherever the number to dial should go. examples: CAPI/XXXXXXXX:b$OUTNUM$,30,r H323/$OUTNUM$@XX.XX.XX.XX OH323/$OUTNUM$@XX.XX.XX.XX:XXXX vpb/1-1/$OUTNUM$ -end- Regards, -- Jason Becker Director & CEO Coalescent Systems Inc. Enabling Open Source Telephony 403.244.8089 www.coalescentsystems.ca _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
What is it you feel is missing in AMP? Dean> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- > bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of asterisk@frameweb.it > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 9:09 AM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Tools for effectively manage Asterisk > > Hallo, > > we have started playing with asterisk about one month ago, and we dolike> very much what we are experiencing. > Now we would like to take some step further towards "standardizing" > installed modules, functionalities, tools etc. > > The "wall" we are facing now is: choosing the right tool for *management.> > We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important tous);> it also suffers from its prerequisites: apache, mysql, php... too much > things that should not go in a pbx.... > > We tried IPSwitchboard, but it seems only good as a monitor, not as a > configuration tool (are we correct or are we missing something?) > > At this point we are thinking that we better abandon the idea of GUItools> and that we must go on the road of "vi editing" of .conf files. > > We would like to understand what other people are using for asterisk > management, and to get some suggestion from the community. > > Any suggestion is welcome > > > Francesco Pellegrini > > > +--------------------------------+ > | Frame Srl | > | Via Antonio Cantore 62/10 | > | 16149 Genova | > | Tel. +39 010 8680570 | > | Fax. +39 010 6591413 | > | Cell. +348 2237798 | > +--------------------------------+ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Gregory Junker
2005-May-31 08:17 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Tools for effectively manage Asterisk
asterisk@frameweb.it wrote:> Hallo, > > we have started playing with asterisk about one month ago, and we do like > very much what we are experiencing. > Now we would like to take some step further towards "standardizing" > installed modules, functionalities, tools etc. > > The "wall" we are facing now is: choosing the right tool for * management. > > We tried AMP, very powerful but incomplete (CAPI is very important to us); > it also suffers from its prerequisites: apache, mysql, php... too much > things that should not go in a pbx.... > > We tried IPSwitchboard, but it seems only good as a monitor, not as a > configuration tool (are we correct or are we missing something?) > > At this point we are thinking that we better abandon the idea of GUI tools > and that we must go on the road of "vi editing" of .conf files.For now, that is your best option.> We would like to understand what other people are using for asterisk > management, and to get some suggestion from the community. >Someone recently had a thread going about requirements for an Asterisk GUI (not sure what scale they were talking about). I suggested, and do strongly suggest, that Asterisk simply be instrumented for WBEM management and leave the rest out of it. This would allow Asterisk to leverage the many powerful management console applications available, and require the least amount of extra software running on an Asterisk server. WBEM is mature, industry-standard, widely supported, and open. The actual management or client application then can use a standard, open interface, and anyone can develop any app they want to meet their particular needs. http://www.dmtf.org/standards/wbem/ http://www.openwbem.org/ My personal preference for management of an Asterisk installation (note I mean "installation" and not just "server" -- the distinction is important), is a drag-n-drop GUI with click-to-edit on system objects and links between, developed from the perspective of the user instead of the perspective of the PBX or the developer. For example, a user or manager does not see "extensions", they see "phones". Greg
asterisk@frameweb.it wrote:>Is there any way to separate AMP stuff from asterisk, in other words to >have AMP, apache and so on on a different pbx than asterisk? > >AMP does require file-system access for configuration of Asterisk. With some clever engineering the interface could be decoupled from the PBX. At present this decoupling is not a design goal of AMP. Regards, -- Jason Becker Director & CEO Coalescent Systems Inc. Enabling Open Source Telephony 403.244.8089 www.coalescentsystems.ca