I was thinking about the best way to hook up the second line in my house to an * fxs port. Would I just wire the fxs to the incoming side of a line at my demarc? Or should I splice it in after that? I need to rewire the whole house anyways. What I had imagined was new cat3 for the phones, and then running a cat5 also while I'm at it for housewide internet access. Now my computer room where the internet switch and my * box are located is at the opposite end of the house from the demarc. That is where the fxs port would be. The house has a huge crawl space so running the wire will be easy. Any thoughts? Chris
> I was thinking about the best way to hook up the second line in my > house to an * fxs port. Would I just wire the fxs to the incoming > side of a line at my demarc? Or should I splice it in after that? > > I need to rewire the whole house anyways. What I had imagined was new > cat3 for the phones, and then running a cat5 also while I'm at it for > housewide internet access. > > Now my computer room where the internet switch and my * box are > located is at the opposite end of the house from the demarc. That is > where the fxs port would be. The house has a huge crawl space so > running the wire will be easy. > > Any thoughts?There are many different ways to address your wishes depending on your longer term objectives. If you really are going to rewire the entire house, then cable each phone back to some common point (demarc). That gives you the flexibility to tie all the phones together, or, separate them into individual asterisk extensions (or group them into line1 & line2 as needed). You can use something like the sipura spa-3000 for total access. The fxo port wired to your pstn phone line, and the fxs port would have all of your house phones attached to it. The spa3k is highly configurable and provides lots of flexibility in changing your environment without redoing wiring, etc. I've got about ten phones wired to a single spa3k fxs port and it works well. However, the spa will not be able to drive very many of the old mechanical ringers. You might even consider using some of those cordless phones (one base with multiple remotes). I'm using a two-line cordless version with one of the lines assigned to the spa3k fxs port, and the second line assigned to a different incoming pstn line (or * extn). Lots of choices.
Chris, If you are looking to run your second line through *, you will need to run the line from the demarc to an FXO port on your Asterisk machine, and then run a line from an FXS card to the jack location where you will be using an analog phone. You cannot connect an incoming line from your telco to an FXS port. Dylan. On 4/20/05, snacktime <snacktime@gmail.com> wrote:> I was thinking about the best way to hook up the second line in my > house to an * fxs port. Would I just wire the fxs to the incoming > side of a line at my demarc?By 2nd line you mean a phone line from your telco, or an unused pair of wire?> Or should I splice it in after that?If you splice the FXS port into an existing phone line, you will be putting 2 dialtones on the line (one from *, one from your telco). The end result will be no dialtone at all ;)> > I need to rewire the whole house anyways. What I had imagined was new > cat3 for the phones, and then running a cat5 also while I'm at it for > housewide internet access. > > Now my computer room where the internet switch and my * box are > located is at the opposite end of the house from the demarc. That is > where the fxs port would be. The house has a huge crawl space so > running the wire will be easy. > > Any thoughts? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Just for grins.... A few thoughts. Run Cat5 exclusively and just pull pairs for phone. Cheaper and better solution that CAT3 and CAT5 mixed together. It allows you to change the end points at will. Who knows if you may want to change over to RJ45 ports and go total IP at some point. You would not be able to do that with CAT3. You would need some CAT5 and have to redo the pulls. You also get enough pairs on CAT5 to put two phone jacks per strand instead of just one. Even if you ignore the rest of my email, I would consider this seriously. For ideas on how to wire the house, look at the Vonage website for a graph on how Vonage suggests to wire the Vonage ATA into the house. I know you do not have a Vonage adapter but the same essentual configuration for wiring should apply to your situation. Essentually, you disconnect the house form the PSTN then connect your * machines FXS to any wall jack to provide tone. This should distribute tone to all the jacks. Limit is around 5 analog phones if memory serves. If your intention is to provide tone to the house with switching between Asterisk with VoiP service (SIP or IAX from some ITSP) and a standard PSTN line from the local telco, then you would do as described above. Isolate your internal phone system, then pull a new jack from the PSTN to the room where your * sits. Plug the FXO card in your * into the new isolated phone jack and * now has a POTS line to work with. Voilla. Some good dial plan management and you have an internal PBX system that has VoIP service over your internet connection and a connection to a POTS line. Your internal phones will be isolated correctly so you don't get contention issues with the external analog link. However, one final question. If you are rewiring the whole house and pulling CAT5 (right?), why not just provision each wall plates with 2 RJ45 network ports and pull two strands of CAT5 per location. Then you can buy a good Gigabit switch for around $300 and setup your whole house on Gigabit. Throw some cheap (or expensive) SIP phones on the network and you have a really nice internal phone system. Want to use your old phones? Get ATAs or IAXy devices. That being said, I know that is a more expensive way to go but it really does offer you a long term solution with many benefits. Just some thoughts!! Cheers, Wiley -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Dylan VanHerpen Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:21 AM To: snacktime; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk home wiring question Chris, If you are looking to run your second line through *, you will need to run the line from the demarc to an FXO port on your Asterisk machine, and then run a line from an FXS card to the jack location where you will be using an analog phone. You cannot connect an incoming line from your telco to an FXS port. Dylan. On 4/20/05, snacktime <snacktime@gmail.com> wrote:> I was thinking about the best way to hook up the second line in my > house to an * fxs port. Would I just wire the fxs to the incoming > side of a line at my demarc?By 2nd line you mean a phone line from your telco, or an unused pair of wire?> Or should I splice it in after that?If you splice the FXS port into an existing phone line, you will be putting 2 dialtones on the line (one from *, one from your telco). The end result will be no dialtone at all ;)> > I need to rewire the whole house anyways. What I had imagined was new > cat3 for the phones, and then running a cat5 also while I'm at it for > housewide internet access. > > Now my computer room where the internet switch and my * box are > located is at the opposite end of the house from the demarc. That is > where the fxs port would be. The house has a huge crawl space so > running the wire will be easy. > > Any thoughts? > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >_______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Even if you choose not to use his other suggestions, I strongly agree with Wiley's idea of using cat-5 instead of cat-3. The difference in cost is minimal, and it will give you much more flexibility down the road. You could even terminate the cat-5 with an RJ-45, and plug your RJ-11 phone cord into it. It will work fine, and that way you don't have to re-do the jacks later when you decide to go all IP. Back at the distribution point, you can terminate everything on an inexpensive cat-5 patch panel, and then cross-connect to whatever you like - ATA, Asterisk box, Ethernet switch, whatever. Brian Leyton IT Manager Commercial Petroleum Equipment> -----Original Message----- > From: Wiley Siler [mailto:wsiler@education2020.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:03 AM > To: Dylan VanHerpen; Asterisk Users Mailing List - > Non-Commercial Discussion; snacktime > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk home wiring question > > Just for grins.... A few thoughts. > > Run Cat5 exclusively and just pull pairs for phone. Cheaper > and better solution that CAT3 and CAT5 mixed together. > It allows you to change the end points at will. Who knows if > you may want to change over to RJ45 ports and go total IP at > some point. > You would not be able to do that with CAT3. You would need > some CAT5 and have to redo the pulls. > You also get enough pairs on CAT5 to put two phone jacks per > strand instead of just one. > Even if you ignore the rest of my email, I would consider > this seriously. > > For ideas on how to wire the house, look at the Vonage > website for a graph on how Vonage suggests to wire the Vonage > ATA into the house. I know you do not have a Vonage adapter > but the same essentual configuration for wiring should apply > to your situation. Essentually, you disconnect the house > form the PSTN then connect your * machines FXS > to any wall jack to provide tone. This should distribute tone to all > the jacks. Limit is around 5 analog phones if memory serves. > > If your intention is to provide tone to the house with > switching between Asterisk with VoiP service (SIP or IAX from > some ITSP) and a standard PSTN line from the local telco, > then you would do as described above. > Isolate your internal phone system, then pull a new jack from > the PSTN to the room where your * sits. Plug the FXO card in > your * into the new isolated phone jack and * now has a POTS > line to work with. > > Voilla. Some good dial plan management and you have an > internal PBX system that has VoIP service over your internet > connection and a connection to a POTS line. Your internal > phones will be isolated correctly so you don't get contention > issues with the external analog link. > > However, one final question. If you are rewiring the whole > house and pulling CAT5 (right?), why not just provision each > wall plates with 2 > RJ45 network ports and pull two strands of CAT5 per location. > Then you can buy a good Gigabit switch for around $300 and > setup your whole house on Gigabit. Throw some cheap (or > expensive) SIP phones on the network and you have a really > nice internal phone system. Want to use your old phones? > Get ATAs or IAXy devices. That being said, I know that is a > more expensive way to go but it really does offer you a long > term solution with many benefits. > > Just some thoughts!! > > Cheers, > Wiley > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of > Dylan VanHerpen > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:21 AM > To: snacktime; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] asterisk home wiring question > > Chris, > > If you are looking to run your second line through *, you > will need to run the line from the demarc to an FXO port on > your Asterisk machine, and then run a line from an FXS card > to the jack location where you will be using an analog phone. > > You cannot connect an incoming line from your telco to an FXS port. > > Dylan. > > On 4/20/05, snacktime <snacktime@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was thinking about the best way to hook up the second line in my > > house to an * fxs port. Would I just wire the fxs to the incoming > > side of a line at my demarc? > > By 2nd line you mean a phone line from your telco, or an > unused pair of wire? > > > Or should I splice it in after that? > If you splice the FXS port into an existing phone line, you > will be putting 2 dialtones on the line (one from *, one from > your telco). The end result will be no dialtone at all ;) > > > > > I need to rewire the whole house anyways. What I had > imagined was new > > cat3 for the phones, and then running a cat5 also while I'm > at it for > > housewide internet access. > > > > Now my computer room where the internet switch and my * box are > > located is at the opposite end of the house from the > demarc. That is > > where the fxs port would be. The house has a huge crawl space so > > running the wire will be easy. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >