Does anyone know the exact VOIP regulations in India. What I want to know is that are VOIP EPBX with E1 lines allowed for comapnies in India. For example If I am a company which has 1 incomming E1 line can I have SIP or IAX extensions inside my office and receive that PSTN call on the VOIP extension. Another senario would be say my office has a branch in another state and I have a leased line or some sort of data network between the two offices can I tranfer a PSTN call comming in over the E1 in one state to a VOIP extension in another state over the data link between the two offices. Telecom in India is over regulated and according to what I figured out that both those senario's above are not allowed I hope someone can prove me wrong. After reading http://www.investindiatelecom.com/BPO%20Regulations/Domestic%20-outgoing.htm and http://www.dotindia.com/isp/guidelines.doc I dont see much hope for offices in India who want to use Asterisk with say Digium E1 cards as they would need to give a bank draf of 10 lakhs to DOT to use VOIP internally. -- regards Vikram
Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT)
2005-Apr-13 12:46 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] VOIP Regulations in INDIA
Wrong email list Vikram. Find the right list elsewhere. -----Original Message----- Does anyone know the exact VOIP regulations in India. What I want to know is that are VOIP EPBX with E1 lines allowed for comapnies in India. For example If I am a company which has 1 incomming E1 line can I have SIP or IAX extensions inside my office and receive that PSTN call on the VOIP extension. Another senario would be say my office has a branch in another state and I have a leased line or some sort of data network between the two offices can I tranfer a PSTN call comming in over the E1 in one state to a VOIP extension in another state over the data link between the two offices. Telecom in India is over regulated and according to what I figured out that both those senario's above are not allowed I hope someone can prove me wrong. After reading http://www.investindiatelecom.com/BPO%20Regulations/Domestic%20-outgoing .htm and http://www.dotindia.com/isp/guidelines.doc I dont see much hope for offices in India who want to use Asterisk with say Digium E1 cards as they would need to give a bank draf of 10 lakhs to DOT to use VOIP internally. -- regards Vikram -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited.
> Wrong email list Vikram. Find the right list elsewhere.I respectfully disagree. And before the conversation falls into a pit of flames, let me explain. I have not found another forum with network and telecom professionals from all over the world. I have been (un)lucky enough to have performed IP-Tel deployments in China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, The Netherlands and in th U.S.A. In the U.S. we are a bit spoiled, as our carriers will often setup a circuit to our specs. In other countries, you get what you get. Ask the provider for the specifications on your shiny new circuit, and the response will be "Oh, it is the standard". And just what is the standard? Who knows the engineer assigned to your install may have no idea. Framing, line-coding or switch type (for a E1/T1 pri) are unknown, since they only do it one way, no one bothers to remember. So I usually have to make a guess, test, try again. I suppose a page on the wiki about what works in which countries might be a good idea, and if I get a moment I'll post what I have found. So far that is just the technical aspect. The legal questions are just as important. China has a reputation of also being VoIP unfriendly. When I was asked to implement two system in China, I tried to get clarification about the regulations. I saw no sense in putting the office staff at risk for prosicution. The answer I received is "It's not legal, but don't worry, the government will not enforce it". Unbelievably the source of the quote was the government run telco. This list, and it's members are in a unique position to help each other beyond the technical requirements. I may be alone in this belief, but any obsticle to a successful asterisk deployemt would seem to be fair game. Dan
I'd also like to hear the answer, I probably will never have a need for the information but you never know. Cheers, Dean> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- > bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brian Capouch > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:13 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VOIP Regulations in INDIA > > Dan Austin wrote: > > > > > This list, and it's members are in a unique position to help > > each other beyond the technical requirements. I may be alone > > in this belief, but any obsticle to a successful asterisk > > deployemt would seem to be fair game. > > > > I agree completely. > > On-topic part: > > Knowledge of VoIP regulation in other parts of the world is going to > wind up being very essential to us as we move into a "paralleluniverse"> to the TDM world. I know nothing about regulation in India, but look > forward to reading about it, because it will provide an interestingand> important perspective into the way things are being done in what may > well be the fastest-growing information economy in the world today. > > Off-topic part relating to self-appointed list policepersons: > > I had an epiphany after a particularly vitriolic flamefest a fewmonths> back over the issue of one member telling another, "Take this offlist;> it's inappropriate." > > One response basically said, "Relax your sphincter, save all of us the > flames by the quick use of your delete key. It is much friendlier,and> much friendlier to other members of the list, who don't share your > compulsion to play policeman." > > So what if there's 503 messages instead of 501. People will vote with > their eyes if the list strays too far off-topic. List policemen > (including the one who flamed me raw a couple of days ago on -dev over > an issue that is *still* generating a lot of interesting posts) serveno> interest other than their own need play big-shot. > > B. > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Vikram Rangnekar wrote:> Does anyone know the exact VOIP regulations in India. What I want to know is > that are VOIP EPBX with E1 lines allowed for comapnies in India. For example > If I am a company which has 1 incomming E1 line can I have SIP or IAX > extensions inside my office and receive that PSTN call on the VOIP extension. > > Another senario would be say my office has a branch in another state and I > have a leased line or some sort of data network between the two offices can I > tranfer a PSTN call comming in over the E1 in one state to a VOIP extension > in another state over the data link between the two offices. > Telecom in India is over regulated and according to what I figured out that > both those senario's above are not allowed I hope someone can prove me wrong. > After reading > http://www.investindiatelecom.com/BPO%20Regulations/Domestic%20-outgoing.htm > and > http://www.dotindia.com/isp/guidelines.doc > > I dont see much hope for offices in India who want to use Asterisk with say > Digium E1 cards as they would need to give a bank draf of 10 lakhs to DOT to > use VOIP internally.Vikram, You may want to contact the local India entity responsible for the legislation. There are many details in some countries on the specifics. The other thing you may need to be aware is that some countries may be now (or in the future) filtering VOIP traffic (search in google), so you may need to check if the Internet provider you would be dealing with (you mention leased line, that should not be a problem so, but just being generic here..). I know some other countries do have specific constraints (Panama ? Mexico ? Brazil ?) and each one a little distinct from the other..