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Andre Normandin

2005-Apr-05 03:35 UTC

[Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT

Hi,

I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA already built in (Both
for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if anybody has one, and
has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA portion of
the router "locked" or can you just go into the router's webadmin
pages and
configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the router
portion?

 Thanks,
       - Andre

Race Vanderdecken

2005-Apr-05 07:30 UTC

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Okay, let me stir the pot with a hornet's nest,

	Yes, you could use it with Asterisk.

	You have to set asterisk up to look like the "Vonage" switch.

	You have to "spoof" the switch. 

	You have to look at the traffic between the "Vonage" box and the
WAN. 

	But surely this is obvious to anyone who understands networking.

	Ethical? Software has no morality.
	
	Like a great many of the messages that come through this list
for people looking to "skirt" the protection mechanisms there is the
"White Hat" and the "Black Hat" of every business decision. 

	Should this be done? That is the moral question.

	If it is done should the code be sold or distributed for free?

	What are the intentions of people, not companies, but people,
who want to modify these boxes? Did they pay for the box and now want to
use them for legitimate purposes? Can I not take an old electrical meter
and use it to measure the output from my private generator at my
mountain cabin?

	This is not so easy an answer to say that they should not be
doing this because of telecommunications legal clouds forbid it.

	Can the same people who use software "PBX's" and
"Switches" to
route calls around the PSTN be considered okay, but moving the point of
entry into the cloud to the house be different? All the equipment is
just boxes that move bits.

	Race "The Tyrant" Vanderdecken


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Normandin
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To: Asterisk-Users
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT

Hi,

I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA already built in
(Both
for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if anybody has one,
and
has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA portion
of
the router "locked" or can you just go into the router's webadmin
pages
and
configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the router
portion?

 Thanks,
       - Andre

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Damon Estep

2005-Apr-05 07:53 UTC

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andre Normandin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:36 AM
> To: Asterisk-Users
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA already built in
> (Both
> for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if anybody has one,
and> has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA
portion> of
> the router "locked" or can you just go into the router's
webadmin
pages> and
> configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the router
> portion?
> 
>  Thanks,
>        - Andre
> Andre,

Before you waste you time and money, consider this;

1. The ATA built into all of the Linksys voice products are simply
Sipura SPA2000's, no function difference, licensed from Sipura by
Cisco/Linksys. The router model just redirects 1 ethernet port to the
internal SPA 2000 and hard codes QoS to that port. That is why there is
only 3 Ethernet ports on the router instead of the customary Linksys 4.

2. If you really want the Linksys, you have to be an ITSP and go through
the correct authorization with Linksys to buy an unprovisioned version.

3. The vonage / ATT units are locked, and I have no knowledge of anyone
successfully unlocking them without the magic code.

4. Even if they could be unlocked, you are better off going legit, buy a
SPA 2000 and a WRT54G, plug the spa2000 into a port on the router, and
set the QoS priority on that port. Viola, you have the same
functionality, with a warranty and support!

Wiley Siler

2005-Apr-05 08:14 UTC

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Actually if memory serves, Vonage unlocks these for $10.  Isn't that
true?
Not sure how that affects you price summation but it could be convenient
for those wanting to use these boxes. 

Thanks,
Wiley


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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Damon
Estep
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:54 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users- 
> bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andre Normandin
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:36 AM
> To: Asterisk-Users
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA already built in 
> (Both for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if anybody has
> one,
and> has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA
portion> of
> the router "locked" or can you just go into the router's
webadmin
pages> and
> configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the router
> portion?
> 
>  Thanks,
>        - Andre
> Andre,

Before you waste you time and money, consider this;

1. The ATA built into all of the Linksys voice products are simply
Sipura SPA2000's, no function difference, licensed from Sipura by
Cisco/Linksys. The router model just redirects 1 ethernet port to the
internal SPA 2000 and hard codes QoS to that port. That is why there is
only 3 Ethernet ports on the router instead of the customary Linksys 4.

2. If you really want the Linksys, you have to be an ITSP and go through
the correct authorization with Linksys to buy an unprovisioned version.

3. The vonage / ATT units are locked, and I have no knowledge of anyone
successfully unlocking them without the magic code.

4. Even if they could be unlocked, you are better off going legit, buy a
SPA 2000 and a WRT54G, plug the spa2000 into a port on the router, and
set the QoS priority on that port. Viola, you have the same
functionality, with a warranty and support!

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Damon Estep

2005-Apr-05 14:11 UTC

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I do not think that is correct, the Linksys authorization agreement for
that product requires that the authorized provider does not make the
product available in an unprovisioned state. Are you sure this applies
to the Linksys or are you referring to a situation where Vonage unlocked
a Cisco or Motorola ATA?> 
> On Apr 5, 2005 8:14 AM, Wiley Siler <wsiler@education2020.com> wrote:
> > Actually if memory serves, Vonage unlocks these for $10.  
> Isn't that 
> > true?
> > Not sure how that affects you price summation but it could be 
> > convenient for those wanting to use these boxes.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Wiley
> > 
> > 
> > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA 
> already built 
> > > in (Both for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if
> > > anybody has
> > 
> > > one,
> > and
> > > has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA
> > portion
> > > of
> > > the router "locked" or can you just go into the
router's webadmin
> > pages
> > > and
> > > configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the 
> > > router
> > 
> > > portion?
> > >
> > >  Thanks,
> > >        - Andre
> > >
> > Andre,
> > 
> > Before you waste you time and money, consider this;
> > 
> > 1. The ATA built into all of the Linksys voice products are simply 
> > Sipura SPA2000's, no function difference, licensed from Sipura by 
> > Cisco/Linksys. The router model just redirects 1 ethernet 
> port to the 
> > internal SPA 2000 and hard codes QoS to that port. That is 
> why there 
> > is only 3 Ethernet ports on the router instead of the 
> customary Linksys 4.
> > 
> > 2. If you really want the Linksys, you have to be an ITSP and go 
> > through the correct authorization with Linksys to buy an 
> unprovisioned version.
> > 
> > 3. The vonage / ATT units are locked, and I have no knowledge of 
> > anyone successfully unlocking them without the magic code.
> > 
> > 4. Even if they could be unlocked, you are better off going 
> legit, buy 
> > a SPA 2000 and a WRT54G, plug the spa2000 into a port on 
> the router, 
> > and set the QoS priority on that port. Viola, you have the same 
> > functionality, with a warranty and support!
> >

Wiley Siler

2005-Apr-05 14:25 UTC

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You are probably correct but I remember seeing something related to
Linksys too...

My google results with where to buy unlocked Linksys...
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-November/071683.ht
ml

 

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[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Damon
Estep
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:12 PM
To: Dalon Westergreen; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT

I do not think that is correct, the Linksys authorization agreement for
that product requires that the authorized provider does not make the
product available in an unprovisioned state. Are you sure this applies
to the Linksys or are you referring to a situation where Vonage unlocked
a Cisco or Motorola ATA?> 
> On Apr 5, 2005 8:14 AM, Wiley Siler <wsiler@education2020.com> wrote:
> > Actually if memory serves, Vonage unlocks these for $10.  
> Isn't that
> > true?
> > Not sure how that affects you price summation but it could be 
> > convenient for those wanting to use these boxes.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Wiley
> > 
> > 
> > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA
> already built
> > > in (Both for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if
> > > anybody has
> > 
> > > one,
> > and
> > > has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA
> > portion
> > > of
> > > the router "locked" or can you just go into the
router's webadmin
> > pages
> > > and
> > > configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the 
> > > router
> > 
> > > portion?
> > >
> > >  Thanks,
> > >        - Andre
> > >
> > Andre,
> > 
> > Before you waste you time and money, consider this;
> > 
> > 1. The ATA built into all of the Linksys voice products are simply 
> > Sipura SPA2000's, no function difference, licensed from Sipura by 
> > Cisco/Linksys. The router model just redirects 1 ethernet
> port to the
> > internal SPA 2000 and hard codes QoS to that port. That is
> why there
> > is only 3 Ethernet ports on the router instead of the
> customary Linksys 4.
> > 
> > 2. If you really want the Linksys, you have to be an ITSP and go 
> > through the correct authorization with Linksys to buy an
> unprovisioned version.
> > 
> > 3. The vonage / ATT units are locked, and I have no knowledge of 
> > anyone successfully unlocking them without the magic code.
> > 
> > 4. Even if they could be unlocked, you are better off going
> legit, buy
> > a SPA 2000 and a WRT54G, plug the spa2000 into a port on
> the router,
> > and set the QoS priority on that port. Viola, you have the same 
> > functionality, with a warranty and support!
> > _______________________________________________
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William M. Sandiford

2005-Apr-05 14:54 UTC

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This is not allowed!
>From secion B.1.1 of the Linksys Agreement
.... Linksys hereby Authorizes and grants any Linksys Service Provider ..... To
purchase and/or lincense Linksys products from an authorized source....to resell
and/or redistribute or deploy such Linksys products and services solely to end
users and only when offered in conjuction with Network Service offerings
provided by the Service Provider directly to end users...

I skipped some of the other fluff.

Point being, you can only resell them to your end users for the sole purpose of
that end user using your service.



-------------------------


I do not think that is correct, the Linksys authorization agreement for
that product requires that the authorized provider does not make the
product available in an unprovisioned state. Are you sure this applies
to the Linksys or are you referring to a situation where Vonage unlocked
a Cisco or Motorola ATA?> 
> On Apr 5, 2005 8:14 AM, Wiley Siler <wsiler@education2020.com> wrote:
> > Actually if memory serves, Vonage unlocks these for $10.  
> Isn't that 
> > true?
> > Not sure how that affects you price summation but it could be 
> > convenient for those wanting to use these boxes.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Wiley
> > 
> > 
> > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GP2A-AT
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've seen these Linksys wireless routers with an ATA 
> already built 
> > > in (Both for AT&T and Vonage) at staples.  I was wondering if
> > > anybody has
> > 
> > > one,
> > and
> > > has been able to configure one of them for asterisk?  Is the ATA
> > portion
> > > of
> > > the router "locked" or can you just go into the
router's webadmin
> > pages
> > > and
> > > configure the ATA portion similiar to the way you configure the 
> > > router
> > 
> > > portion?
> > >
> > >  Thanks,
> > >        - Andre
> > >
> > Andre,
> > 
> > Before you waste you time and money, consider this;
> > 
> > 1. The ATA built into all of the Linksys voice products are simply 
> > Sipura SPA2000's, no function difference, licensed from Sipura by 
> > Cisco/Linksys. The router model just redirects 1 ethernet 
> port to the 
> > internal SPA 2000 and hard codes QoS to that port. That is 
> why there 
> > is only 3 Ethernet ports on the router instead of the 
> customary Linksys 4.
> > 
> > 2. If you really want the Linksys, you have to be an ITSP and go 
> > through the correct authorization with Linksys to buy an 
> unprovisioned version.
> > 
> > 3. The vonage / ATT units are locked, and I have no knowledge of 
> > anyone successfully unlocking them without the magic code.
> > 
> > 4. Even if they could be unlocked, you are better off going 
> legit, buy 
> > a SPA 2000 and a WRT54G, plug the spa2000 into a port on 
> the router, 
> > and set the QoS priority on that port. Viola, you have the same 
> > functionality, with a warranty and support!
> > 
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Jeff Glassman

2005-May-13 20:49 UTC

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My Wireless router needs replacing,  I have seen a wirerless/router/ata
that is locked into A T&T service,
http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=662
<http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=662&scid=35>
&scid=35
 
Can theses be unlocked or can you buy them without being tied in to a
VOIP provider
 
Jeff
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Paul

2005-May-13 21:29 UTC

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See 
http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=36&products_id=419

You will notice that the product number ends in -NA when it is not 
locked to a provider

specifically see:


    SPECIAL NOTICE REGARDING THIS PRODUCT


    This product is ONLY available to qualified service providers who
    sign an authorization agreement with Linksys and will NOT be sold to
    end-users. Please contact our sales department to discuss the
    purchase of this product. Call 1-800-398-VOIP to speak with a
    representative.
    IF YOU ARE NOT A SERVICE PROVIDER, DO NOT ORDER THIS PRODUCT AS YOUR
    ORDER WILL BE CANCELLED.





Jeff Glassman wrote:
> My Wireless router needs replacing,  I have seen a 
> wirerless/router/ata that is locked into A T&T service, 
> http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=662&scid=35 
> <http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?prid=662&scid=35>
>
>  
>
> Can theses be unlocked or can you buy them without being tied in to a 
> VOIP provider
>
>  
>
> Jeff
>
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