How ISPs May Quietly Kill VoIP Communications Posted by Zonk on Friday March 18, @10:59PM from the poor-kids-never-had-a-chance dept. ravenII writes "PBS's i'Cringley's informative piece gives an eye-opening look at the anticompetitive behavior of some ISPs who are showing up late to the VoIP game. This is not something that could be easily mandated, and the beauty of this approach is that they're not explicitly doing anything to the 3rd party service applications. They're just identifying and tagging their own services, which is within their rights."
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:19:19 -0500, Kris Edwards <krisedwards@gmail.com> wrote:> How ISPs May Quietly Kill VoIP > Communications > Posted by Zonk on Friday March 18, @10:59PM > from the poor-kids-never-had-a-chance dept. > ravenII writes "PBS's i'Cringley's informative piece gives an > eye-opening look at the anticompetitive behavior of some ISPs who are > showing up late to the VoIP game. This is not something that could be > easily mandated, and the beauty of this approach is that they're not > explicitly doing anything to the 3rd party service applications. They're > just identifying and tagging their own services, which is within their > rights."One major flaw I see with his logic is that in order to degrade the traffic enough to have an effect on voip, a provider has to degrade all the traffic, and they aren't going to do that. The other one is that congestion is less and less of an issue. The backbone is not clogged with traffic, it's got excess capacity all over the place at least in the US. Bandwidth will only get cheaper, the pipes fatter, and the quality better. All of which work against this theory. Then again, maybe this time the sky really is falling... Chris
There was a big discussions at the Future of IP Heavyreading.com conference in NY this week about this. It's not as easy for the ISP's to get away with it as you think. Empirix.com were called in to investigate and document the recent Vonage case (lol interestingly enough they have also been hired by an unnamed country to prevent voip as well). The FCC are taking a very dim view of any 'manipulation'. Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Kris Edwards Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:19 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Article on Slashdot How ISPs May Quietly Kill VoIP Communications Posted by Zonk on Friday March 18, @10:59PM from the poor-kids-never-had-a-chance dept. ravenII writes "PBS's i'Cringley's informative piece gives an eye-opening look at the anticompetitive behavior of some ISPs who are showing up late to the VoIP game. This is not something that could be easily mandated, and the beauty of this approach is that they're not explicitly doing anything to the 3rd party service applications. They're just identifying and tagging their own services, which is within their rights." _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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