Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists
2004-Oct-23 23:04 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] G.729 on YDL and MacOSX
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: G.729 codec on Yellow Dog Linux for various PPC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kristian Kielhofner <kris@krisk.org> wrote:> This is probably a good time to ask if there is any > planned support for a g729 binary for YDL and > G3/G4, etc. ?I would love to start playing with > apple hardware, YDL, and asterisk. > But I need that binary!Indeed it is a good time to ask (but always start a new thread ;-) I have mentioned this before, and I would like to ask EVERYBODY who is interested to VOICE your interest directly with the respective vendors. This is the first step and it is VERY IMPORTANT. I am confindent that an Altivec optimised G.729 codec for the PPC970 CPUs (aka G5) on YDL4 would so clearly trash any Intel or AMD based system that most serious deployments that require G.729 will end up using Xserve instead of Intel toyz. Combine this with the fact that the x86 architecture has hit the wall while IBM is only getting started. Even Microsoft have recognised the leadership of IBM by going PPC with their new game console. Before this background it is quite apparent that there is an interesting market potential for G.729 binaries for LinuxPPC. However, without requests from customers for a G.729 codec for LinuxPPC it will take so much longer for an x86 centric shop like Digium to recognise this potential and consider spending time and effort on it. Therefore, please, send an email to Digium and tell them that you want this binary for PPC and continue to nag them about it again and again and again and again. If as a result, Digium realise that there is demand, then they will quite possibly provide that binary. At the same time, let's also remind TerraSoft (http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com) that Asterisk on their YDL platform is alive and that their sponsorship to bring Asterisk to LinuxPPC was not in vain, that there is finally an opportunity to get a return on their investment. Let's assume that Digium is simply too busy with other things and that even if they wanted to, they couldn't do the G.729 codec for PPC. So, in lieu of Digium providing the codec for PPC, TerraSoft may recognise the opportunity and step in. But again, in order for this to happen, it will take requests from customers. Therefore, please, send an email to Kai Staats at TerraSoft and tell them that you'd be very interested to buy G.729 codec binaries for Asterisk on YDL if they were to offer them, then follow up on that with reminders to show that you are serious about it. TerraSoft have been working together with Digium to bring Asterisk to YDL, so there shouldn't be a problem for the two companies to get together again and bring the G.729 codec to YDL as well. All it takes for that to happen is visible customer demand. Perhaps we should set up some kind of petition page on the Wiki. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: G.729 codec on MacOSX for Apple Macintosh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Darren Sessions <dsessions@ionosphere.net> wrote:> Or for that matter, is there a planned G729 binary > for Mac OSX ?It will probably take a LinuxPPC port first, but here again, why don't you send email to Apple and tell them that you would rather purchase oodles of Xserve instead of x86 based servers if only there was a G.729 codec for OSX. It will take a lot more noise to get Apple to recognise that there is a market potential than it will take to get Digium or TerraSoft to do so, but that's no reason not to make a request. So, please, send email to Apple and tell them that you have tested Asterisk on MacOSX -- they have listed our installer on their website http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/asteriskinstallpackageformacosx.html, that you found it runs circles around any other product, such as Cisco Call Manager -- Apple just loves to hear that sort of thing -- and that the only thing that's missing is the G.729 codec which the open source community is unable to provide on its own due to the patent royalties that need to be paid on a reseller-to-patent-holder basis because there is no end-user-to-patent-holder scheme, that you would love to buy many many Xserves if Apple was to sell you the missing codec. rgds benjk -- Sunrise Telephone Systems, 9F Shibuya Daikyo Bldg., 1-13-5 Shibuya, Tokyo, Japan. NB: Spam filters in place. Messages unrelated to the * mailing lists may get trashed.
Em Dom 24 Out 2004 04:04, Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists escreveu:> > This is probably a good time to ask if there is any > > planned support for a g729 binary for YDL and > > G3/G4, etc. ?I would love to start playing with > > apple hardware, YDL, and asterisk. > > But I need that binary! > Indeed it is a good time to ask (but always start a new thread ;-) > > I have mentioned this before, and I would like to ask EVERYBODY who is > interested to VOICE your interest directly with the respective > vendors. This is the first step and it is VERY IMPORTANT. > > I am confindent that an Altivec optimised G.729 codec for the PPC970 > CPUs (aka G5) on YDL4 would so clearly trash any Intel or AMD based > system that most serious deployments that require G.729 will end up > using Xserve instead of Intel toyz. Combine this with the fact that > the x86 architecture has hit the wall while IBM is only getting > started. Even Microsoft have recognised the leadership of IBM by going > PPC with their new game console. Before this background it is quite > apparent that there is an interesting market potential for G.729 > binaries for LinuxPPC.We have plans for a 240 channel VOIP to PRI gateway at a minimum. So far we're stuck with Intel/AMD, however we would like to run this on a PPC platform, either Apple, IBM or a clone like the Pegaso motherboard. If anyone has benchmarked what G5 processor can do as a VOIP=>multiple PRI's can do, I'd be interested to find out. Specially if it can handle 2 or more TE405P/TE410P to iLBC or Speex (a G729A isn't available). If a PPC platform can double channel capacity, I would be pressuring Digium like crazy to get them to work on it, I'd be in line to purchase over 400 channels of G729 licenses for PPC. Marcelo Pacheco> However, without requests from customers for a G.729 codec for > LinuxPPC it will take so much longer for an x86 centric shop like > Digium to recognise this potential and consider spending time and > effort on it. Therefore, please, send an email to Digium and tell them > that you want this binary for PPC and continue to nag them about it > again and again and again and again. If as a result, Digium realise > that there is demand, then they will quite possibly provide that > binary.
Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote:> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:57:44 -0600, creslin@digium.com > <creslin@digium.com> wrote: > >>Ok, check out ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/g729/unsupported/linuxppc >> >>Knock yourself out (oh, and look at the date on that file too :-) ) > > > date? > > "The requested URL /pub/asterisk/g729/unsupported/linuxppc was not > found on this server."Index of ftp://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/g729/unsupported/linuxppc Up to higher level directory File: codec_g729a.so 169 KB 08/19/2004 11:32:00 AM File: register 458 KB 08/19/2004 11:32:00 AM
I attached the files for everyone... In case of FTP files. On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:37:11 -0600, Eric Wieling <eric@fnords.org> wrote:> Benjamin on Asterisk Mailing Lists wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:57:44 -0600, creslin@digium.com > > <creslin@digium.com> wrote: > > > >>Ok, check out ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/g729/unsupported/linuxppc > >> > >>Knock yourself out (oh, and look at the date on that file too :-) ) > > > > > > date? > > > > "The requested URL /pub/asterisk/g729/unsupported/linuxppc was not > > found on this server." > > > Index of ftp://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/g729/unsupported/linuxppc > Up to higher level directory > File: codec_g729a.so 169 KB 08/19/2004 11:32:00 AM > File: register 458 KB 08/19/2004 11:32:00 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-- MBM