e164.org is a public name service which provides ENUM.164, a method devised by the IETF and ITU to allow an ordinary telephone to be connected to an Internet type network and provided dialling service from other, regular telephones. Unlike many other "free" voice over IP systems, e164.org allows users who have a regular telephone line, to also hook themselves up to the Internet without intervention from their regular telephone service provider while still using their "plain old telephone" number instead of a web, IP or some other address. The system works like this: * You dial a telephone number. Example: 1-604-958-6111. * Your VoIP system looks up the number in e164.org. if a match can be found, your call is tried over the Internet, directly to the other subscriber's system. * If a match is not found, or if the call fails, your system can then attempt to dial the number using your regular telephone line. The example above is just a simple scenario, how your system behaves is dependent on how an Asterisk dial plan (for example) is configured. To help prevent abuse, all PSTN numbers must be validated first. Simply create an account at e164.org, and select "add your PSTN number". The number you add will be phoned and a Personal ID number will be read out to you. Return to the website, enter your PIN, and viola! Your phone number will be instantly added into the system. In addition, those without a telephone line can still receive a "free" number from e164.org making it possible for people without phone service to interact with others. -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers -- Best regards, Duane http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk servers
At 12:39 PM +1000 4/27/04, Duane wrote:>From: Duane <digium@aus-biz.com> >To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com >Subject: [Asterisk-Users] e164.org proudly announces PSTN support > >e164.org is a public name service which provides ENUM.164, a method >devised by the IETF and ITU to allow an ordinary telephone to be >connected to an Internet type network and provided dialling service >from other, regular telephones. > >Unlike many other "free" voice over IP systems, e164.org allows >users who have a regular telephone line, to also hook themselves up >to the Internet without intervention from their regular telephone >service provider while still using their "plain old telephone" >number instead of a web, IP or some other address. > >The system works like this: > > * You dial a telephone number. Example: 1-604-958-6111. > * Your VoIP system looks up the number in e164.org. if a match can > be found, your call is tried over the Internet, directly to the > other subscriber's system. > * If a match is not found, or if the call fails, your system can > then attempt to dial the number using your regular telephone > line. > >The example above is just a simple scenario, how your system behaves >is dependent on how an Asterisk dial plan (for example) is >configured. > >To help prevent abuse, all PSTN numbers must be validated first. >Simply create an account at e164.org, and select "add your PSTN >number". The number you add will be phoned and a Personal ID number >will be read out to you. Return to the website, enter your PIN, and >viola! Your phone number will be instantly added into the system. > >In addition, those without a telephone line can still receive a >"free" number from e164.org making it possible for people without >phone service to interact with others. >-- >Best regards, > Duane > >http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates >http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally >http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom >http://happysnapper.com.au - Sell your photos over the net! >http://e164.org - Using Enum.164 to interconnect asterisk serversHere's a little heads-up on this, folks. This service is a very nice idea, and I'm all for it. Some of you are even using my zone of freenum.org for ENUM resolution for toll-free numbers in quite a few nations, which uses the same tricks that e164.org is using. However, just realize that you are NOT subscribing to the "real" e164.arpa global tables when you sign up with e164.org (note the "arpa" and "org" suffix differences.) This means that anyone wanting to find your ENUM address would need to specifically point their resolvers at the nameservers that are being run by e164.org. This in the long run is not a viable solution, just like having separate root servers for domain suffixes like ".porn" and ".fun" or whatever are similarly Not a Good Thing. When people talk about "true" ENUM, they're talking about the e164.arpa zone. You may also have security concerns about this. Anyone running the nameservers with those zones can do a very trivial Man-In-The-Middle attack. I don't disparage Duane's trustworthiness, but it's perhaps worthwhile to think of the chain of trust in instances where you allocate pointers for vital information through an entity that perhaps is an unknown quantity. (Urk - I just thought of a very very evil, very ugly, and fairly trivial bodge of shell scripts, network tools, and Asterisk which would allow recording of any call that was based on an ENUM query. I really, really need to get DNSSEC implemented...) Additionally, the +88299 range that is being handed out has not been allocated to e164.org, so these numbers are almost certainly not going to be routed globally anytime in the future. It's like using the +1-700 range here in the US (which is how IAXTEL runs) and just hoping that nobody has dialplans that ever conflict with the real +1-700 number space on the PSTN. Probably true, but very ugly and fragile at best. My hope is that the ENUM authorities (typically the PTT's or government telephony regulatory agencies) in each nation will make something for adding entries into their respective national ENUM databases that is as easy as the e164.org entry process. However, knowing the political strife that so often accompanies things like this I doubt that will be anytime soon, so maybe e164.org sounds like a good idea for a while. As a last note, there is an ITU-recognized ENUM "country code" for non-geographically allocated devices, it's the +878 aka UPT (Universal Personal Telecommunications) range. Not too many people route it globally (though it's free for providers to do so, they haven't clued in yet) though I expect to see more routes soon. Expect some VoIP providers to start handing out those numbers as default numbers shortly, instead of "make-believe-land" numbers. (hint, hint) In closing, I encourage people to sign up for e164.org's service, but be prepared to do this all over again when 'true' e164.arpa comes to fruition in your nation. JT
Dean Collins
2004-Apr-26 21:16 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] e164.org proudly announces PSTN support
In closing, I encourage people to sign up for e164.org's service, but be prepared to do this all over again when 'true' e164.arpa comes to fruition in your nation. JT _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Hi John, I think the theory is if we can get enough critical mass behind this and have enough people sign up to this free service then it will have to be implemented. I think you were a little pessimistic in the middle of your email but I think you hit the nail on the head, sign up for it as it will save you a little money today and hopefully one day it will save you a lot of money. Cheers, Dean
Adam Goryachev
2004-Apr-26 21:40 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] e164.org proudly announces PSTN support
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 12:39, Duane wrote:> To help prevent abuse, all PSTN numbers must be validated first. Simply > create an account at e164.org, and select "add your PSTN number". The > number you add will be phoned and a Personal ID number will be read out > to you. Return to the website, enter your PIN, and viola! Your phone > number will be instantly added into the system.I hope this 'validation' is ... ummm... considerate. ie, you will only be called between 9am and 9pm local time. Also, which countries is this valid for? If I register my phone number in australia, will you make that international call? or someone in South Africa? Who is covering these costs? Personally, I'm still trying to overcome the cost issue where routing calls over my internet connection may in fact be MORE expensive than routing those calls over the PSTN. (Considering I pay per MB for my traffic). Then there is also the added problem of trying to ensure QoS.... Regards, Adam
Nicolas Bougues
2004-Apr-27 08:53 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] e164.org proudly announces PSTN support
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 12:39:01PM +1000, Duane wrote:> > e164.org is a public name service which provides ENUM.164, a method > devised by the IETF and ITU to allow an ordinary telephone to be > connected to an Internet type network and provided dialling service from > other, regular telephones. > > Unlike many other "free" voice over IP systems, e164.org allows users > who have a regular telephone line, to also hook themselves up to the > Internet without intervention from their regular telephone service > provider while still using their "plain old telephone" number instead of > a web, IP or some other address. >Do you have any plans to support large blocks of numbers ? We have blocks of (real, PSTN) hundreds, sometimes thousands of numbers we may want to add to some ENUM system, and of course, automatic call back on each number is not really the best way to do it. I believe that most VoIP gateway operators are in the same situation. Maybe an email robot that could handle "trusted" allocation requests from providers, coupled with a regular (yearly) update process, requiring the provider to explicitely confirm its current allocation ? -- Nicolas Bougues Axialys Interactive