Derek Samford
2004-Mar-10 14:54 UTC
There is no FORK! (WAS Re: [Asterisk-Users] BETA RADIUS support for Asterisk)
I believe that's what Steven was saying. That if this code was to ever be included in the asterisk source then there would need to be a disclaimer from Derek Bruce, as well as the Freeradius dev team. He pointed out that this keeps there from being any need for a fork, and makes things much less complicated for Digium. Derek Samford -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy McNamara [mailto:jj@nufone.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: There is no FORK! (WAS Re: [Asterisk-Users] BETA RADIUS support for Asterisk) Steven Critchfield wrote:>Maybe you should read and understand the comments on licensing. Maybe a >going over the licensing threads here would also be needed. > >For the short story, Digium dual licenses asterisk. There is a GPL >license for those of us that don't need proprietary support, and then >there is a proprietary license that is charged for and is a fork of >asterisk by Digium. >Mark needs full control of the copyright so things like Open H.323, OpenSSL and G.729 can exist in Asterisk. There is no FORK!>This is why disclaimers are important for those who >contribute patches. If there isn't a disclaimer, Digium can not include >it in the proprietary version of asterisk. If they can not include itin>the proprietary version, they tend to not allow it in their version of >the GPL releases so they don't have to maintain a real proprietary fork >as well as the GPL version. > >THERE IS NO FORK! There is a total of ONE (1) Asterisk source tree.>So far the majority of us are cool with this fact and can work around >any annoyances this causes. But as stated in the comments in that bug, >there needs to be a disclaimer from free radius to use their softwarein>such a way. > >A disclaimer is only needed if the code is to be included with Asterisk. Please get your facts straight before posting. Jeremy McNamara _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus
Jeremy McNamara
2004-Mar-10 15:01 UTC
There is no FORK! (WAS Re: [Asterisk-Users] BETA RADIUS support for Asterisk)
Derek Samford wrote:>I believe that's what Steven was saying. That if this code was to ever >be included in the asterisk source then there would need to be a >disclaimer from Derek Bruce, as well as the Freeradius dev team. He >pointed out that this keeps there from being any need for a fork, and >makes things much less complicated for Digium. > > >That fact is not the problem. It the fact that there is no FORK of Asterisk that Digium secretly maintains. This is how rumors get started. Didja hear about RedHat buying out Digium ? Or was it Microsoft? Jeremy McNamara>-----Original Message----- >From: Jeremy McNamara [mailto:jj@nufone.net] >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:42 PM >To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com >Subject: There is no FORK! (WAS Re: [Asterisk-Users] BETA RADIUS support >for Asterisk) > >Steven Critchfield wrote: > > > >>Maybe you should read and understand the comments on licensing. Maybe a >>going over the licensing threads here would also be needed. >> >>For the short story, Digium dual licenses asterisk. There is a GPL >>license for those of us that don't need proprietary support, and then >>there is a proprietary license that is charged for and is a fork of >>asterisk by Digium. >> >> >> > >Mark needs full control of the copyright so things like Open H.323, >OpenSSL and G.729 can exist in Asterisk. There is no FORK! > > > > >>This is why disclaimers are important for those who >>contribute patches. If there isn't a disclaimer, Digium can not include >>it in the proprietary version of asterisk. If they can not include it >> >> >in > > >>the proprietary version, they tend to not allow it in their version of >>the GPL releases so they don't have to maintain a real proprietary fork >>as well as the GPL version. >> >> >> >> > >THERE IS NO FORK! There is a total of ONE (1) Asterisk source tree. > > > > >>So far the majority of us are cool with this fact and can work around >>any annoyances this causes. But as stated in the comments in that bug, >>there needs to be a disclaimer from free radius to use their software >> >> >in > > >>such a way. >> >> >> >> > > >A disclaimer is only needed if the code is to be included with Asterisk. > > >Please get your facts straight before posting. > > >Jeremy McNamara > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Asterisk-Users mailing list >Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >########################################### > >This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus > >_______________________________________________ >Asterisk-Users mailing list >Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >
William Waites
2004-Mar-10 15:33 UTC
There is no FORK! (WAS Re: [Asterisk-Users] BETA RADIUS support for Asterisk)
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 05:01:38PM -0500, Jeremy McNamara wrote:> > That fact is not the problem. It the fact that there is no FORK of > Asterisk that Digium secretly maintains. This is how rumors get > started.If memory serves, you were the one who started that rumour. I remember you claiming publicly that (1) you had a private fork and (2) you had licenced Asterisk outside of the GPL from Digium and had the right to distribute a proprietary version if you chose. While it is undoubtedly true that Digium does not secretly maintain a fork, your company, NuFone is closely associated on a business level with Digium, and you are as far as I know the only person outside of Digium with commit privileges to the source tree... 2+2 == ? /w -- /~\ The ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect for open standards