Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU? Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040214/d1f0c864/attachment.htm
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote:> Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU?VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
I stuck with this line of argument mainly because the current Ofcom consultation concerns secondary line VoIP. So the customer base is mainly users of Vonage etc. There are, of course many more users of telephony over IP. Iain --On Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:42 am +0800 Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:> Iain Stevenson wrote: > >> >> The problem with the Ofcom consultation as I see it is that it seems >> to be regressive wrt to the position now being taken by the FCC. >> There are probably not many more than 250,000 VoB users worldwide so >> now is not the time to impose significant market constraints. > > Why do you quote VoB, when the use of broadband versus other internet > connections is totally arbitrary? The figure you quote seems far too low > for voice over internet (rather than VoIP, since a lot of the IP is on > private nets). I think you will find each of the major producers of VoIPs > phone has produced rather more than that. Business users alone, dumping > their PBXs, must accounts for millions of lines by now. Some of that > traffic goes branch to branch over private nets, but they do a lot of > interconnecting with the PSTN too. > > Regards, > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Thank you, now I am off to get licensed in the UK Ryan -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Steve Kennedy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:54 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote:> Does anyone know where I can find some more info on the VoIP laws in the EU?VoIP in the EU hasn't been completely sorted centrally (i.e. by the EU parliament), last time they looked at it a few years ago it wasn't perceived to be entranched enough to worry about, I suspect this will change soon. In the UK Oftel put out a guide, which says if you're running VoIP services (i.e. back-end services, so maybe a SIP proxy/registration server or interconnection with the PSTN) you are a Communications Service Provider and covered by the same regulations as a traditional voice provider. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
If you can help out and post the document it would be a big help. We have picked all are vendor/partners in the states and the UK is next. Also if you can reccomend any voice providers we can work with I will be in the UK next week. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Steve Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:44 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Voip in the EU On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 05:31:06PM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote:> Thank you, now I am off to get licensed in the UKSince the Communications Act came into force there are no such things as "licenses" per se. The Communications Act specifies 21 obligations that a Communications Service Provider operating as a Telephony Provider must abide by. I haven't got the document to hand, but could make it available if people want. It does cover lifeline/emergency services etc. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:05:37PM -0500, Ryan Finnesey wrote:> If you can help out and post the document it would be a big help. We have picked all are vendor/partners in the states and the UK is next. Also if you can reccomend any voice providers we can work with I will be in the UK next week.http://www.gbnet.net/~steve/tel.net/cond_final0703.pdf is the document that describes the 21 obligations for a "telco". Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19