asterisk users - Feb 2004 - s/asterisk mailinglists/asterisk forum/g ?

hi all

now that the lists are at 2-300 email messages a day, perhaps it's time
to move it to a web forum instead? This can give us lots of categories
(all the apps and channels etc etc), an easily searchable thing such as
phpbb and it'll be a lot easier to find the actual info.

regards

roy

> now that the lists are at 2-300 email messages a day, perhaps it's time
> to move it to a web forum instead? This can give us lots of categories
> (all the apps and channels etc etc), an easily searchable thing such as
> phpbb and it'll be a lot easier to find the actual info.
This has been brought up several times and it's been shot down every single 
time.  This time is no different.

Web forums will not be viewed by the people who are actively developing 
asterisk since they're such a colossal waste of time, energy and bandwidth.
It's so much harder to find info on a forum than it is on a mailing list -- 
hideous colour schemes, animated emoticons, l33t sp34k, broken PHP and 
database backends -- that's just the start.  So, like most other web 
forums, they will inevitably stagnate into a breeding ground for newbies 
and fill with messages -- nay /posts/ -- about how asterisk sucks ass 
because nobody can get any help.

These lists are searchable, that too has been brought up many times, and 
someone even wrote a search app that lets you do fuzzy matching and other 
neat tricks.  I don't have the URL handy, but it should be in the archives 
for -users within the last 30 days.

Regards,
Andrew

On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 09:06, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> now that the lists are at 2-300 email messages a day, perhaps it's time
> to move it to a web forum instead? This can give us lots of categories
> (all the apps and channels etc etc), an easily searchable thing such as
> phpbb and it'll be a lot easier to find the actual info.
I don't really think that making the "mailing lists" totally
usable my
moving them to a web based forum is the answer. Perhaps instead everyone
that thinks the mailing list has too many messages/day to be useful
should invest in a few moments to set up some basic filtering in their
mail client.

Nope... works fine like it it!

bkw

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> hi all
>
> now that the lists are at 2-300 email messages a day, perhaps it's time
> to move it to a web forum instead? This can give us lots of categories
> (all the apps and channels etc etc), an easily searchable thing such as
> phpbb and it'll be a lot easier to find the actual info.
>
> regards
>
> roy
>
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On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 10:06, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> now that the lists are at 2-300 email messages a day, perhaps it's time
> to move it to a web forum instead? This can give us lots of categories
> (all the apps and channels etc etc), an easily searchable thing such as
> phpbb and it'll be a lot easier to find the actual info.
While I myself am feeling a little overwhelmed by the mail traffic too,
I don't like the idea of forums.  Personally, I have yet to see a forum
that I consider useful.  All too often forums are slow, difficult to
search and waste too much time throughout the day polling for new posts.

I think a decent mail list archive with searching capabilities and
sortable by date/thread/author should be fine.  If the traffic is too
much for you then unsubscribe and scan the archives from time to time.

I'm involved with a few organizations that spent considerable time,
effort and $$ setting up and managing forums only to find they are
consistently under-utilized.

I vote against forums.

-joe
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Here is a suggestion for people interested in setting up a web based
interface to the asterisk email list. Use fud forum :

http://fud.prohost.org/

This is a forum system that can archive an email lists messages for easy
searching and a nice web interface and it can be set up to allow posting of
messages through the forum altough this may be undesirable. It is highly
configurable.

Fudforum if properly configured seems to offer a good way to improve access
to an email list.

I guess the question is whether the core users of this list want to improve
access or whether they want to keep access limited to people who are at
least committed enough to set up there email clients correctly which would
be fair enough.

Jamie
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James Pratt
Phone no. : 03-33125787
Home Page : http://e-gakusei.org/

> http://fud.prohost.org/
+1 *wow*

Now that is a site for sore eyes!  (yes, pun intended) -- I wonder how well 
the mailing list integration really does work.  Wow.

Regards,
Andrew