The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system. They have deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones. They might be sending me one of these phones for use in my home office. Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my Asterisk server? I don't know if it is a SIP phone? I searched thru the Avaya site, but can't find whether it's a SIP phone or not. Thought maybe someone on this list would know. Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya server these 46xx IP telephones use? I don't know what model of the Avaya server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here. Thanks in advance, ================================Ed Rubright -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20031204/f4d5b00c/attachment.htm
Asterisk and Avaya IP phones-----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Ed Rubright Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:03 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Avaya IP phones The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system. They have deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones. They might be sending me one of these phones for use in my home office. Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my Asterisk server? I don't know if it is a SIP phone? I searched thru the Avaya site, but can't find whether it's a SIP phone or not. Thought maybe someone on this list would know. Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya server these 46xx IP telephones use? I don't know what model of the Avaya server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here. Thanks in advance, ================================ Ed Rubright These phones are H.323 phones from what I remember of the documentation, so they are compatible in a VERY general sense. However, I'm sure that there are alot of proprietary things that the phone does that would have to be sniffed out in order to make it fully compatible if that is even possible. I wouldn't expect any help from Avaya either. :) HTH Andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20031204/3670eb80/attachment.htm
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 23:02, Ed Rubright wrote:> The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system. They > have deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones. They might be > sending me one of these phones for use in my home office. > > Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my > Asterisk server? I don't know if it is a SIP phone? I searched thru > the Avaya site, but can't find whether it?s a SIP phone or not. > Thought maybe someone on this list would know. >It's not SIP, currently, well over a year ago Avaya demonstrated SIP functionality in both the phones and in their Multivantage PBX software. This has not been released, apparently due to lack of business demand... I've tried making one work as is with asterisk and a number of other h323 products, however, I've not yet had any success... Avaya seem to have really filled these with lots of proprietary hacks...> Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an > individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya > server these 46xx IP telephones use? I don't know what model of the > Avaya server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here. >You would not be able to get a SIP phone talking to the Avaya PBX for the reasons mentioned above... You could possibly get an h323 trunk between the * and the Avaya PBX, but, I have not tried this yet so this too may not work... Also, something worth mentioning, the number of IP trunks you can have is limited by the number the Avaya PBX is licenced to use... If your company is not currently using trunks, there may not be any trunks available to use... Not a lot of good news there, but I hope it's helpful to you... Dan
Ed Rubright wrote:> The company I work for has deployed an Avaya IP phone system. They have > deployed the Avaya 4602 and 4620 IP telephones. They might be sending > me one of these phones for use in my home office.I recently (April) left Avaya. I was in the IP router/GigE switch area mostly, but in the last year plus built media gateways. So I know enough to be dangerous. Things may also have changed since April.> Question: Can I make this IP telephone register and work with my > Asterisk server? I don't know if it is a SIP phone? I searched thru > the Avaya site, but can't find whether it?s a SIP phone or not. Thought > maybe someone on this list would know.No. Unless things changed, all IP devices were H.323 based, with a lot of AT&T/Lucent/Avaya extensions. Extensions exist to add to what is lacking in H.323 (e.g. management, such as when you go off-hook, turn the green light on etc.) They pretty much turn the IP phone into one of their DCS phones.> Question: Would I be able to register my Asterisk server or an > individual SIP phone (Cisco 7960 or Polycom IP600) with the Avaya server > these 46xx IP telephones use? I don't know what model of the Avaya > server the company has purchased, so I have limited info here.There was no SIP support when I left. Using QSIG, you might be able to interoperate over a "crossover" T1 cable between the Asterisk server and MultiVantage (or whatever they call "call control" this week.) Avaya did support NetMeeting (H.323) clients at one point. Setting up Asterisk as an H.323 client (to Avaya) and SIP on the other side might also work. Others on the list will know more of Asterisk's capabilities in this area. MikeC