Hi, I have the same problem as everyone else. Finding the nirvana SIP phone. Here is a great chart and article from Network Computing. Grandstream is not listed. http://img.cmpnet.com/nc/1416/graphics/1416f2d.gif (you may have to zoom in to see better) http://www.networkcomputing.com/1416/1416f2.html Siemens seems to have the best value followed by SNOM and Mitel. If someone with experience and comments on any of these that would be helpful. Costas -- Costas Menico Meezon Software Corp 201-224-8111 costas@meezon.com --