asterisk users - May 2003 - Ha, just found a way around australia approvals......

For you aussies on the list :-)

I have been looking for a solution around the approval problem.

Now today I had a long discussion with my carrier who would be
providing services to an asterisk box with hopefully an E400P in it....
As all the equipment are on their premises (my in their colo facility)
and we are pluging directly into their switch, we only have to meet
their switch requirements and austel approval is not required in this
case.

Think about it, think outside the square, sometimes the answer is
staring at you !!

Telstra ---- forget it folks :-)

Gary
.

> For you aussies on the list :-)
>
> I have been looking for a solution around the approval problem.
>
> Now today I had a long discussion with my carrier who would be
> providing services to an asterisk box with hopefully an E400P in it....
> As all the equipment are on their premises (my in their colo facility)
> and we are pluging directly into their switch, we only have to meet
> their switch requirements and austel approval is not required in this
> case.
>
> Think about it, think outside the square, sometimes the answer is
> staring at you !!
>
> Telstra ---- forget it folks :-)
>
> Gary
How does this help people using it at their own premises as a PBX ? It would
mean you need to use VoIP to get the traffic from the colo to the office.

Regards,
Adam

On Thu, 2003-05-08 at 22:15, Gary wrote:
> For you aussies on the list :-)
> 
> I have been looking for a solution around the approval problem.
> 
> Now today I had a long discussion with my carrier who would be
> providing services to an asterisk box with hopefully an E400P in it....
> As all the equipment are on their premises (my in their colo facility)
> and we are pluging directly into their switch, we only have to meet
> their switch requirements and austel approval is not required in this
> case.
> 
> Think about it, think outside the square, sometimes the answer is
> staring at you !!
> 
> Telstra ---- forget it folks :-)
> 
> Gary
> .
Of course you could pickup a cheap drop and insert csu/dsu...
Your Digium card would then not be connected directly to the PSTN.

If it works for the goose.....

Dave

Hi,

This may be true, but be very careful. In some countries such indirectly 
connected unapproved equipment is OK. In other places it is not. It can 
be quite hard, sometimes, to get a straight answer about what is 
allowed. When I lived in the UK many people said similar things were OK, 
but they were not (I think they maybe OK now, but not back then). The 
rules clearly stated that "equipment connect directly or indirectly"
to
the PSTN needed approval. The back of a switch is definitely an indirect 
connection.

Just make sure a genuine expert (rather than a poser :-) ) gave you the 
information.

Regards,
Steve


Gary wrote:
>For you aussies on the list :-)
>
>I have been looking for a solution around the approval problem.
>
>Now today I had a long discussion with my carrier who would be
>providing services to an asterisk box with hopefully an E400P in it....
>As all the equipment are on their premises (my in their colo facility)
>and we are pluging directly into their switch, we only have to meet
>their switch requirements and austel approval is not required in this
>case.
>
>Think about it, think outside the square, sometimes the answer is
>staring at you !!
>
>Telstra ---- forget it folks :-)
>  
>

At 23:52 9-5-2003 +0800, you wrote:
>This may be true, but be very careful. In some countries such indirectly 
>connected unapproved equipment is OK. In other places it is not. It can be 
>quite hard, sometimes, to get a straight answer about what is allowed. 
>When I lived in the UK many people said similar things were OK, but they 
>were not (I think they maybe OK now, but not back then). The rules clearly 
>stated that "equipment connect directly or indirectly" to the PSTN
needed
>approval. The back of a switch is definitely an indirect connection.
Thats debatable :) If the intermediate system uses galvanic separation 
(i.e. use a transformer with 1:1 coils to transport the signal) you are 
very likely to be home free. You can easily argue in such a situation there 
is no real connection (directly or indirectly) between the systems, they 
just transfer the signal via electromagnetic fields.

This technique only works for analog systems though :) but there are 
probably are alternatives ?

Florian