Adduser devel - May 2005 - Re: Bug#134473: [Pkg-shadow-devel] Bug#134473: Is someone able to understand what is requested in #134473?

(enlarging the discussion again..:-)). See http://bugs.debian.org/134473
> > I''m CCing debian NIS packager (hello Miquel) to see what he
think about it.
> > [For the context, shadow packaging just changed into a team effort,
and
> >  we''re doing massive bug triage]
> 
> Well actually nowadays Mark Brown does most (the last few releases,
> all) of the work on NIS.
> 
> But it''s probably not a bad idea to make the tools more flexible.
> It sure beats vi :)

Well, I will need to be convinced..:-)

Up to now, we are still looking at useradd/userdel as "low-level"
tools and thus the "high-level" functionality is better be integrated
into adduser/deluser.

We also have, for instance, a request to make useradd add users in
LDAP backends and we could even end up in requests to be able to add
users in "winbind" backends one can have with the samba package (users
authenticated against a NT domain).

I''m very reluctant to push such feature requests to upstream shadow
and ask it with all possible name services systems.

I think that adding a kind of plugin mechanism to Debian specific
adduser utilities would be more logical, if that''s feasible.

Marc and adduser maintainers, opinions, thoughts ?

On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 07:28:25AM +0200, Christian Perrier
wrote:
> I think that adding a kind of plugin mechanism to Debian specific
> adduser utilities would be more logical, if that''s feasible.
As far as I remember, this is on the features list for the next
generation adduser. Unfortunately, there is not work being done on
next generation adduser at the moment, and features like this will
surely not be in current adduser under its current maintainership. No
time.

Greetings
Marc

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Quoting Marc Haber (mh+debian-packages@zugschlus.de):
> On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 07:28:25AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > I think that adding a kind of plugin mechanism to Debian specific
> > adduser utilities would be more logical, if that''s feasible.
>=20
> As far as I remember, this is on the features list for the next
> generation adduser. Unfortunately, there is not work being done on
> next generation adduser at the moment, and features like this will
> surely not be in current adduser under its current maintainership. No
> time.
OK, thanks for the very quick (as usual) reply, Marc.

I''m not fond of reassigning "my/our" bugs to others but in
that case, this
bug would become a request to add a plugin for NIS to adduser...as
soon as the plugin or similar mechanism is implemented in adduser..:-)

Would you bother me to reassign this to adduser or do you have
already requests for NIS account management for it=A0?

About adduser maintainership, what is your current setup? Do you have
a team setup or is the package basically maintained by just you?

The shadow revival we recently made has given me some ideas about team
package maintenance I''d like to share (in fact, this is a bit too late
but I intended to talk about this at debconf....still maybe for an
informal BOF if I have enough courage...)

Hi,

On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 08:36:46AM +0200, Christian Perrier
wrote:
> I''m not fond of reassigning "my/our" bugs to others but
in that case, this
> bug would become a request to add a plugin for NIS to adduser...as
> soon as the plugin or similar mechanism is implemented in adduser..:-)
I think that the new adduser will probably be an entirely new package.
> Would you bother me to reassign this to adduser or do you have
> already requests for NIS account management for it ?
Feel free to reassign, but that bug will quickly catch a "severity
wishlist, tags wontfix help".
> About adduser maintainership, what is your current setup? Do you have
> a team setup or is the package basically maintained by just you?
Adduser used to be maintained by Roland Bauerschmidt, and he accepted
me as a co-maintainer in 2004. He is quite busy with openldap, I am
quite busy with exim4, and thus only urgent bugs or easily fixable
items get addressed. I understand that Roland has some ideas about the
next generation adduser, but I surely don''t plan on putting any time
into that. From the degree of Roland''s participation in adduser in the
last months, I guess that he is swamped with work as well.

So it looks like next generation adduser will be a completely
different package written by somebody else, and that a plugin
architecture in the current adduser won''t happen any time soon.

Actually, I got involved with adduser maintainership when I needed
some minor changes to make package account creation easier. These
issues are addressed, which kind of concludes my interest in adduser.
I''ll try to keep the package free of RC bugs, and fix trivial
requests, but investing any time into big architectural changes are a
non-option for me.

Greetings
Marc

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